Just don't care anymore

[dumboldowl]

4 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said:

We win the next 5 in a row. Posts like this don’t appear.

The passion comes back when we start winning.

 

 

The way we are managed and play we will be lucky to win five more matches all season. The passion comes from the opposition every game.

[Inspector Lestrade]

39 minutes ago, room0035 said:

How has being homeless, with a team of free agents and loans, transfer embargos, points deductions, fans owed money, season ticket holder going shopping rather than attending games.

 

No the club has never been in a worse place that it currently is and now we have a manager who seems to be a deluded at the bloke running the club.

 

In my 43 years we have never been as awful in all part of the club, as we have for this last few seasons. Nothing getting better it's just become the norm. This continues we won't have a football club in 18 months.

 

Save our Owls was it?

[davey_wells]

I rode out last season and truly gave up, actually wanting us to get relegated due to how much it was deserved.

 

This was all on the basis that a restart in League 1 with a better mentality, forced position to cut the wage bill and a fresh set of players would give us the momentum we needed to return a better club.

[Mike Hunt]

1 minute ago, davey_wells said:

I rode out last season and truly gave up, actually wanting us to get relegated due to how much it was deserved.

 

This was all on the basis that a restart in League 1 with a better mentality, forced position to cut the wage bill and a fresh set of players would give us the momentum we needed to return a better club.

Wow !

[latemodelchild]

I know where Nigel and others in this thread are coming from. I've pretty much stopped celebrating goals when I'm not at the game cos you know we'll chuck it away. Get carried away at Hillsborough obviously, I'm not dead yet. It's been like this since Monk though and I'm bored with it all. I'll not chuck it in or owt but I really could do with us having a decent run and reigniting the excitement for us all. 

 

As for those defending DC in all this, he is the reason we are where we are. He is the problem. He could solve it by employing people who know what they're doing and letting them do a job while he makes the money and gets the rewards. For some unfathomable reason he won't do that though. I honestly think that if he gave me the reins and money down there I could do a better job than him. Spend on the academy etc spend on the stadium, spend on staff who know what to do. There you go, just improved it for everyone. 

[Guest DoesJackHunt]

24 minutes ago, CourteenerOwl said:

The poor form is literally Darren More fault. He has the biggest budget in League 1. He has the biggest squad. He has some of the best players. We are still 9th despite him. A decent manager has us easily top 4 with this squad. Whatever the chairman has failed at before of course has an impact but how far back in the past do you go to blame something in the present. Are we where we are because Dave Richard did nothing to keep Di Canio?

 

We are in the here and now and the chairman has backed Moore. He has no excuses for our league 1 form other than himself.

well seeing as the restrictions impacted this years recruitment I feel it’s fair to take that into account this season. 
 

How do you know a decent manager has us top 4? It could be that the players just aren’t clicking and there confidence is low and would have been whoever was in charge.

Are you sure he has the biggest budget?

Are you sure he has the biggest squad?

Are you sure, man for man, we have the best players?

 

I’m not saying we don’t, all I’m saying is these statement you’re making to back up your argument, I have no idea if they are accurate.

 

yes we all would like to see us doing better but there are a lot of new players at Hillsborough this season, we are in a new league and there is a long way to go. 

[CourteenerOwl]

1 minute ago, DoesJackHunt said:

well seeing as the restrictions impacted this years recruitment I feel it’s fair to take that into account this season. 
 

How do you know a decent manager has us top 4? It could be that the players just aren’t clicking and there confidence is low and would have been whoever was in charge.

Are you sure he has the biggest budget?

Are you sure he has the biggest squad?

Are you sure, man for man, we have the best players?

 

I’m not saying we don’t, all I’m saying is these statement you’re making to back up your argument, I have no idea if they are accurate.

 

yes we all would like to see us doing better but there are a lot of new players at Hillsborough this season, we are in a new league and there is a long way to go. 

In answer to your questions, it is just my opinion but I would say Yes, Yes and Yes.

 

Surely it is the managers job to make players click and give them confidence by man management and motivation skills. The main reason they are not clocking is because of his faffing around with positions and tactics each week and that in turn will effect confidence. There are no connections developing on the pitch due to this. This is why we are not clicking. It is November next week,

 

In league 1 the goals are the same size and the aim of the game the same. Not sure why being in a new league is an excuse, especially as it's a weaker league. League 1 us crap. Utter crap.

[Mr Farrell]

We clearly aren't getting promoted under Chancer and Derren Bore, so the only way I can see positivity returning is when Chancer eventually leaves.

 

Until then, the club will continue to tread water at best.

[ashley8]

First thing we need is to see some vision and direction from Chansiri and manager.... probably not Moore now.

Two disastrous DECADE'S 

You can find patience if you can see the person in charge of things has hot a clue and a plan.... currently 

Chansiri  No

Moore     No

 

In Football you need a bit of luck...

You sack a manager or owner not because they don't have luck but when it becomes apparent they can't even achieve the basics or show nouse to improve things....

Until clean sweep of change everything will stay the same....

So saying don't Boo and just back the team( not that we arnt anyway!) Is just head in the sand stuff!

[theowlsman]

Yeah, but it's a promotion season innit?

[Spion Kop]

14 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said:

 

Isn't it also feeling a connection to the club and a place where you feel you 'belong'.

I get the impression many people are losing that feeling.

Never really had that feeling of being connected to the club. I'm just a number and have being since I supported them but they are my club and I will keep following Wednesday home and away, come rain or shine.

In the early 60s every Saturday morning whilst dad was working at the steel works, I would go with mum to the Wednesday Development office. Mum would hand over the money and tickets that they had sold and we would get 2 free tickets for the match. Dad would take me to Hillsborough every Saturday of the season, when the 1st team where away we would be watching the reserves.

From being about 12 to now I've had season tickets, bought them for my 3 kids, 3 grandkids, bought the very 1st 1867 membership when that came out. With the exception of Eastville I've watched Wednesday play at every away ground since the early 60s.

Do my club Wednesday no who I am, do they ever thank me or my family personally for our support, no, but I do belong here, our names are on the brick, its my club and thousands of others have similar stories to mine.

The players, managers and chairman will come and go but I'll still be here travelling 160 miles to the home games.

Unless you follow a team with a small fan base in whatever league they play, you may be thought of differant and feel connected to the club but I've never felt it all these years of watching our club.

 

 

[daveyboy66]

34 minutes ago, theowlsman said:

Yeah, but it's a promotion panto  season innit?

 

[soldierboyblue]

50 minutes ago, latemodelchild said:

I've pretty much stopped celebrating goals when I'm not at the game cos you know we'll chuck it away

Never ever ever stopped celebrating goals wherever I am unless it's on the Leeds home endMy Saudi neighbours are now used to the swearing and shouting every Saturday

[Screen Door Slams]

3 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

 

Honestly wouldn’t it make all the difference if:

 

1) fans could see what the style of play is

2) fans could understand the tactics

3) fans knew our best starting eleven 

4) players were played in their natural position 

5) we just stopped conceding late goals

6) the set piece takers were more effective 

7) we didn’t change starting lineup every game

8 - Darren Moore was more open and honest in interviews and stopped the politicians answers 

 

 

Now look again at that list and what I’m asking for here 

 

Those 8 things alone cost nothing, are easily sorted and even more alarmingly should be simply basics at any struggling football club to try and get back on track 

 

Its all about the intent..........................i could accept him tinkering and changing if there was a common theme every week , ie an attacking , aggresive mindset and a front foot tempo.

[Hughdowd]

6 hours ago, Jack the Hat said:

As bad as Chansiri is he has still pumped a lot of money into the club. We have been in worse positions than this. I think both Allen and Mghee were worse. Even Richards left us in the brown stuff. He's not going anywhere so our current problem is the inept manager. A decent manager would get us into the playoffs. A trip to Wembley in the summer would lift the blues. Come on Chansiri, pull the trigger. MM was  a good chairman but wouldn't spend any money, whereas DC is poor but will spend. If MM had stayed on as an advisor would have been great. We were close on a couple of occasions, but the manager you mention bottled it. That wasn't DC's fault.

McGee was worse …. Are u joking !!!!!!!!…Best chairman Wednesday have had in years …. Local successfull businessman…club at heart … worked a blinder to get Jack charlton to Wednesday ……We we’re crap then … but the fans knew things would eventually change for the better ……….Can anyone say than now ???????

[Lincs Owl]

The club is dead?

23,600 turned up on Saturday to watch a funeral?

The club isnt dead but we're in a rut. Have been since sacking Carlos.

We'll survive and get better.  We always do.

But it will take effort and needs our fans to stay loyal.   

So toodle-oo Grandpa.  See you when we next get to Wembley.

[vulva]

Didn’t the OP vehemently protest the ownership that much recently that he refused to step foot in the ground until DC was gone?
 

And then went in corporate hospitality the next match?

 

In terms of a protest, and stickability, it wasn’t really up there with the Poll Tax riots or glueing your face to the M25. 

[Pughies Jockstrap]

7 hours ago, Grandad said:

I genuinely never thought I'd see the day. But after all the years of obsession and dedication to the club, the battles I've fought with the likes of Allen and Walker over their horrendous mismanagement of the club and treatment of fans, this Chairman has finished me. 

 

The club is dead. It's now so much further back than the empty shell of a club Milan inherited. And still sinking 

 

The football is horrendous and has been for years (bar Carlos). The atmosphere has gone, the lone drummer at the back of the Kop symbolic. Fans circulate at the ground in a wake-like existence. Nobody remembers why they go any more. 

 

The club is dead and was killed by Chansiri. The last thing we all had left, that carried us through all of the horrendous 20 post Prem years, was hope. 

 

Once Chansiri killed that we were done. They might as well lock the gates

Ive been going since 1967 regularly. Ive lived in digs shared flats with Wednesday players and socialised with loads over the years and still count about half a dozen ex players as really good friends who I see on  a regular basis. But .. I  now feel exactly the same as Grandad. Unless things improve or this owner departs then Im afraid this  is my last season. I wont be renewing.Last Saturday where I am in the South Stand people around me were sat in silent disbelief at  the garbage dished up by so called professional footballers. A few were actually laughing it was so bad. This might be quite telling but not one of the ex pros I still socialise with have been near the place  in years even though they dont live a mission miles away. How in Gods name has it come to this. Chansiri will, I predict be the death knell for this club.

[Pughies Jockstrap]

And before Lincs owl tries to tell me Ill be back when they next get to Wembley - no I wont so save your breath.

[Lincs Owl]

7 minutes ago, Pughies Jockstrap said:

And before Lincs owl tries to tell me Ill be back when they next get to Wembley - no I wont so save your breath.

Maybe not, but 45000 went the last time, and nearly as many to Cardiff before that.  So you could probably sneak in with them, if you change your mind.

Yes, the club is a shambles.  We could lose to Cheltenham and Harrogate in our next two games.  But I'm not thinking of throwing the towel in.  I'm a veteran of 1975-6 don't you know.