Lionel Fessi Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, adelphi1867 said: Spot on. There has been to much time wasted on JUST the 1st team over the last 30 years, how long does it take to sink into the skulls of some people to realise there is more to a club. Precisely this. Fans fail to recognise how great Chansiri's contribution has been to the infrastructure of the club, faculties, academy set up and the development squad have all improved 10 fold since he's been at the helm - granted MM provided him a great foundation to do so, but it was Chansiri's investment that was behind all of the above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 We seem to be moving in the right direction, I'm inclined to give Monk the time and peace to implement his vision and suffer a few lapses on the way. Fact is, despite the occasional lapse and loss and more infrequently terrible loss, we're still sat towards top of the table a few points off play offs with a lot of games left to play. Hope it'll be back to within 1 point of play offs by the time this weekend is over. WAWAW - UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: If it’s true Westwood refuses to sit on the bench then that it is a poor example to set. But we don’t know this for sure, so wrong to speculate. You're right - but like any of these shenanigans at Hillsborough over the last few years you have see the facts for what they are and then speculate wildly: SWFC gave Westwood a two year deal in the Summer. We all assumed that this was for him to be no1 keeper, as the salary must be higher than Dawson and Wildsmith. If it wasn't, they'd be no point giving him a contract, and I doubt he would have signed it. He started off as no1 until his injury. Dawson steps in and does well. Westwood is fit again, but doesn't come back into the squad - Wildsmith, the U23 keeper is now in front of him and on the bench. There's no way SWFC would want Wildsmith on the bench if Westwood is fit; both team wise and financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said: He is 100% correct in what he says but if I researched it I reckon I could find very similar things said by Paul Jewell, Terry Yorath, Peter Shreeves, Chris Turner, Alan Irvine. Exactly, says the right things but im still not convinced by Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: We seem to be moving in the right direction, I'm inclined to give Monk the time and peace to implement his vision and suffer a few lapses on the way. Fact is, despite the occasional lapse and loss and more infrequently terrible loss, we're still sat towards top of the table a few points off play offs with a lot of games left to play. Hope it'll be back to within 1 point of play offs by the time this weekend is over. WAWAW - UTO That’s part of the problem with the current structure (or lack of) for me, this should be the club’s vision, with Monk buying into it. We shouldn’t be appointing managers to give us a ‘vision’, it should already be ingrained, although that’s clearly not the case. Monk has a very big job on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Too many have become a part of the furniture and not in a good way. They talk a good game, say the right things, but dont have it in them to challenge at this level anymore. Living off a few good seasons under Carlos. This summer, we need a complete clear out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: Would love to know what exactly he means. Obviously I'm guessing, but would go along the lines of; Chansiri says he wants us promoted asap. Assess the squad, get rid of the slackers and bring in who you trust to achieve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: Too many have become a part of the furniture and not in a good way. They talk a good game, say the right things, but dont have it in them to challenge at this level anymore. Living off a few good seasons under Carlos. This summer, we need a complete clear out And because some of these players are fan favourites it’s almost like they become untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Just now, Steve Down South said: That’s part of the problem with the current structure (or lack of) for me, this should be the club’s vision, with Monk buying into it. We shouldn’t be appointing managers to give us a ‘vision’, it should already be ingrained, although that’s clearly not the case. Monk has a very big job on his hands. Part of the problem is lack of continuity. DC, whatever his faults, has stated he wants his coaches to coach, and sometimes that means working with the players you have Players have had to adapt to different ways of playing, but that’s the way it should be. We don’t really have clear identity, a specific way of playing, we seem to lurch from one direction to another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, 0114 said: And because some of these players are fan favourites it’s almost like they become untouchable. I get the impression that as soon as it's possible Monk will be touching them... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I think he's being polite. I watched the Blades go toe to toe with Man City yesterday, they have a team full of belligerent tw@ts!!! We need some tw@ts of our own..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 hours ago, deano said: with the right additions upfront we will be pushing again. our midfield is woeful too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Like GM, he says all the right things but, too many players need changing, our lot won't give him the time, there's too many restrictions with P&S, so he's got to "polish the turd" which, unfortunately requires a miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ian_D said: our midfield is woeful too Not for me, certainly not our problem area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Am I the only one that feels like a part of that is aimed at us the fans? He isn't talking about the squad, he's talking about the whole club. Why are we so good away from Hillsborough? Maybe the garbage atmosphere has a part to play. Maybe he's suggesting the fans create a more positive atmosphere (yeah yeah you can't cheer if the players don't turn up etc. etc.)? Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Am I the only one that feels like a part of that is aimed at us the fans? He isn't talking about the squad, he's talking about the whole club. Why are we so good away from Hillsborough? Maybe the garbage atmosphere has a part to play. Maybe he's suggesting the fans create a more positive atmosphere (yeah yeah you can't cheer if the players don't turn up etc. etc.)? If GM is taking aim at the fans, he needs to educate himself on the treadmill of fcukwittery we’ve been on the last few years. The fans have been taken for mugs for years now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Is he gonna look for someone to buy the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: If GM is taking aim at the fans, he needs to educate himself on the treadmill of fcukwittery we’ve been on the last few years. The fans have been taken for mugs for years now. So it's OK to turn up just for a moan at the left back then? Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 So there is an issue with the club culture and mentality so simple question. When a new manager comes in why does he not clear out the back room staff and start again. No instead the only thing that changes is the manager. The club needs a rethink from top to bottom but one of the biggest issues is not the players, but the guy at the top and his lack of knowledge of running a football club, he continues to not bring in people who can help him and we stumble along from one crisis to the next. He needs a football CEO who knows how to run the club day to day as a viable business. He needs a director of football who can manage both the first team and the development teams. He needs a head of youth development with experience of develop youth players into first team players. No more jobs because they are a top bloke, or they used to play for the club now real change is needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Hopefully a big clear out on the way in the summer although it wasn’t long ago we had 16 or so players out of contract and nothing has really changed since then. Some of these players that where successful under CC need moving on, they aren’t up to the job anymore. Edited January 22, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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