Nero Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Clear from last night that the majority have stopped playing for him. Although there are some major mitigating circumstances, Monk just can't keep throwing the players under the bus in front of him to take the blame. Its terrible management and what happens is that even this set of leaderless mild mannered chuffs start sulking. He talks about the players as if he can get rid of them - he cant - that's playing to the crowd - he should be playing the hand he chose to pick up. While acknowledging the rotten choices he has up front, Monks created a bigger crisis to cover up his inability to motivate, poor tactics, shocking substitutions etc. The way he is doing this never works. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TodwickOwl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 This lot have needed calling out for a long time My concern is how we have gone from an ultra hard side to beat to a side last night that was CLEARLY operating at 50% - no press, no passion, no fight. We wasn’t like this a month ago - what’s happened? What’s changed? Have they had a bust up with him? War within camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Nero said: Clear from last night that the majority have stopped playing for him. Although there are some major mitigating circumstances, Monk just can't keep throwing the players under the bus in front of him to take the blame. Its terrible management and what happens is that even this set of leaderless mild mannered chuffs start sulking. He talks about the players as if he can get rid of them - he cant - that's playing to the crowd - he should be playing the hand he chose to pick up. While acknowledging the rotten choices he has up front, Monks created a bigger crisis to cover up his inability to motivate, poor tactics, shocking substitutions etc. The way he is doing this never works. From previous musings.. I understand Monk has tried positivity.. patience and treating them generally as grown up colleagues.. he's obviously come to the end of his rope with them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 or 5 managers. Same set of players. Same old same old. I fully blame the players, not GM. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 If Monk goes before any of these spineless charlatans, I’m done. He’s far from perfect and perhaps warrants criticism, but he hasn’t signed anybody yet. This lot have chucked Carlos under the bus when they decided to stop playing for him, they chucked Luhukay under the bus when they decided to stop playing for him. Bullen... see a pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I sometimes despair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Monk needs to win this one for the sake of the club, If he doesn’t then we might as well call it a day. We have made heroes out of some spoilt under achievers and we are paying the price as they feel untouchable. Cut the old guard free and let Monk build his own side then we can judge his abilities. These players have a very soft but very rotten core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Monk now covering his own ar*e by piling in on these complete wasters ... Why did it take you 5 months to realise this Garry? Or is it just convenient after 5 defeats in 6? Remember that someone is actually instructing them to lump it as far as they are capable and hope something happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I’d fookem all off and start again. First out the door would be the estate agent, he’s been a constant part of this failure and his times up. We need fresh faces with new ideas, the whole set up has become cozy, lazy, complacent and failure is accepted. I don’t blame Monk for that but he’s come in and maintained the status Quo, happy to come and take the money and blame others when his negative methods bare the same results as the likes of Irvine and Joss. Not all his fault but has shown nothing to show he’s the man for the next 3-4 seasons. What a flipping mess we’re in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 They’ve stopped playing for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Whatever the answer we're in trouble, now that monk has publicly slated the players what chance has he of getting any sustained effort from them, his formations, tactics and substitutions have not always been the best, maybe that's the problem, there is certainly no consistency either way, I can't see a quick fix, too much bad blood now and too many players knowing they are going, sadly we are now fighting for survival not promotion. Uto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 As a manager you'd go in with an open mind and give everyone a fair chance. You'd see that there are some good players, most of them probably, and hope you can make them into a consistenrly good team. You'd spot some who aren't quite giving their all so you'd try the arm round the shoulder approach, then the hair dryer. Then you'd decide that certain players might have ability but no bottle, no desire any more and you would decide you'd get shut of them. That's where Monk is at. One last thing to try, publicly shaming them and see if they respond. They won't so the next job is to replace them. Go for it Gary, most fans will be behind you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy30 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Too many need to go , Nowt to do with manager when Dave ( nowt against the guy ) is your best player and the only one who looks like he cares we are losing. Then it’s a big worry . 2-1 down 5 min injury time and they still carnt be arsed to move. Rhodes Smiling on sideline when he’s about to come on even tho just let a second goal in. Comical !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Monk should have peered around the press room door and said “ They’re not footballers, they’re just very naughty boys “ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He's not convinced me yet, but need to judge him on next season when hopefully he's managed to get players in and players out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Monk went up in my estimations last night. Some brutal honesty that the club, players and fans needed to hear. This sort of performance has been happening since 17/18 and there has been 4 managers since then and pretty much the same set of players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, erowl said: Remember that someone is actually instructing them to lump it as far as they are capable and hope something happens. Thats clearly the players reverting to type and not following instructions Get rid of the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Nero said: Clear from last night that the majority have stopped playing for him. Although there are some major mitigating circumstances, Monk just can't keep throwing the players under the bus in front of him to take the blame. Its terrible management and what happens is that even this set of leaderless mild mannered chuffs start sulking. He talks about the players as if he can get rid of them - he cant - that's playing to the crowd - he should be playing the hand he chose to pick up. While acknowledging the rotten choices he has up front, Monks created a bigger crisis to cover up his inability to motivate, poor tactics, shocking substitutions etc. The way he is doing this never works. From Nero to Zero in one post. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Many of the players have seemingly stopped caring. The result is that so have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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