paulrs Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Really? Is that a fact or just your opinion? I would think you have more chance of being sent to prison if you physically assault someone as opposed to racially abusing them. Can you provide the evidence to back up your claim? I would also think that the overwhelming amount of people would think that physical evidence is worse than racist abuse. I see David’s point. Let’s say for example that a well known TV pundit was charged with assault - or equally bad in my opinion, spitting at someone - I suspect their career may resume after a slap on the wrist and a temporary suspension. Now let’s say a well known TV pundit was charged with racial abuse, or even just made an off-colour racist remark off air; I’d expect their TV career to be brought to a sudden and permanent end. Is that fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Itchy said: Seriously ill in hospital may get him off but not much else will cut it. Missed a flight from Argentina or Italy won’t Dont think a lot of people on here understand the gravity of the offence . Not regarding Mansfield, it’s not turning up . Think he or anyone else deserves the chance to tell their side of it before they get hung at dawn ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Itchy said: Seriously ill in hospital may get him off but not much else will cut it. Missed a flight from Argentina or Italy won’t Dont think a lot of people on here understand the gravity of the offence . Not regarding Mansfield, it’s not turning up . This. Yer can't just choose not to rock up at court (even if 'Owlstalk' believes it's a load a sh**e!) Simple as that really Edited December 28, 2018 by Bleeder Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, poite said: Why does the reason matter? exactly sure lets vilifiy anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Maybe a bit different... But a player for Wednesday in the early 90's had his electricity cut off. He was in a Wednesday house, all in all payed for. He didn't know to take bills to the club to sort out. English was not his first language. I was working next door and his neighbour told me....across the road a fairly famous to be..united player lived. He came across one day to borrow a drill, so I passed him a drill...no, no he said... I have one of them...the thing in the end to make holes. Ah, ok what are you drilling into I asked (so I could give him a suitable drill bit)...he said wallpaper. Mm I thought....you could be injured on Saturday Just maybe FF didn't know he had a summons, or couldn't read it?) or was away.....if not he's fooookin nuts and deserves all he gets....would have thought his solicitor would know anyhow....strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, woodys said: Amazing how many fans are ready to hang him out to dry before the full story is told Previous history doesn't help him. Hardly a role model is he ? Edited December 28, 2018 by Sergeant Tibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Let’s face it surely it can’t be deliberate because he’s got a son surely over Christmas he wouldn’t want to risk arrest on purpose and risk his family life?? It’ll all be a misunderstanding he’s foreign after all ? Cut him some slack all truth will come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Previous history doesn't help him. Hardly a role model is he ? What’s the previous mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: I'm more inclined to believe that he had no idea it would get this far. What a complete farce these "charges" are - and waste of public-funded time and money. I agree the charges are farcical. However, if he knew about this date in court and failed to show then that is the height of stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, paulrs said: I see David’s point. Let’s say for example that a well known TV pundit was charged with assault - or equally bad in my opinion, spitting at someone - I suspect their career may resume after a slap on the wrist and a temporary suspension. Now let’s say a well known TV pundit was charged with racial abuse, or even just made an off-colour racist remark off air; I’d expect their TV career to be brought to a sudden and permanent end. Is that fair? I'm just asking for his evidence for his claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Lomas613 said: Let’s face it surely it can’t be deliberate because he’s got a son surely over Christmas he wouldn’t want to risk arrest on purpose and risk his family life?? It’ll all be a misunderstanding he’s foreign after all ? Cut him some slack all truth will come out we can the court wont I'm not versed in the legal ramifications any solicitors tell us what the likely outcome is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: I'm more inclined to believe that he had no idea it would get this far. What a complete farce these "charges" are - and waste of public-funded time and money. 100% bang on the money mate. Its a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Previous history doesn't help him. Hardly s role model Is he ? An history of refusing to play for club, diving to win penalties and having arguements with team mates won't be of much interest to a judge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchy Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, woodys said: Think he or anyone else deserves the chance to tell their side of it before they get hung at dawn ffs I honestly believe if he had a justifiable reason for non attending his solicitor would have put this to the court and arrest warrant would not of been issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Accepting the perils of FFP, and some footballers don't live in the real world, how much crap do we have to put up with. I don't think we can afford to replace the talent, bit we should be able to look beyond that. Lest we forget - Refusing to play. I said at the time that in my opinion that was the time to cash in on the player. The first team manager didn't agree with me and kept him after an apology to the team mates. I would have outed him then, but it was sorted at the time and the time to hang him for it has passed. His discipline, which attracts the wrong type of attention from referees. How much of that is actually him though. Look at Pearson from Preston the other year haranguing the officials. Look at the potentially leg breaking tackle from Dawson which he amazingly got sent off for. His ability to fall over. Don't like it myself. But , as we witnessed at Hillsborough last week teams will try and gain any advantage. Preston were shocking, we see it week in and week out in the Premier league. Last week I heard Shearer exclaim that a player who had taken a massive dive had 'every right to go down'. He wasn't touched! It's not right. But if we sold every player that had ever made a meal of a tackle some of our legends wouldn't have played half the games they did. Punching a team mate in training. Training ground scrap? When I was in the game there was at least one of those a month. No danger. Carlos fined and suspended them both. It was dealt with. Winnall was at Fernandos barbecue in the summer. Flash points happen. Talk of racist comments. If proven - very serious and I'm sure the authorities will deal with him. It'll be interesting to see the evidence when he does eventually get to court. What's next ? Hopefully a purple patch Indian summer full of goals under the new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Itchy said: I honestly believe if he had a justifiable reason for non attending his solicitor would have put this to the court and arrest warrant would not of been issued Glad folk aren’t convicted on what you honestly believe you may be right you may be wrong I’d personally just rather he gets his chance to tell his side first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, bradowl said: An history of refusing to play for club, diving to win penalties and having arguements with team mates won't be of much interest to a judge. Someone's character can be taken into consideration when passing sentence. However, these things you mentioned are more important regarding why many on here are sick to the back teeth of Forestieri, which is (I think) why some are making the comments that they are. I can see why others put up with these things because of the obvious talent Forestieri has but being in the group that would have got shut of him after the Norwich game when his stock was high I now find it typical of the "Wednesday Way" that we really are going to get sod all for him when tragically we could really do with the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, woodys said: Glad folk aren’t convicted on what you honestly believe you may be right you may be wrong I’d personally just rather he gets his chance to tell his side first Also it's a magistrates court not crown court. Storm in a tea cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, woodys said: I’d personally just rather he gets his chance to tell his side first He’d be able to if he’d turned up for his court appointment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, No Uniform said: Also it's a magistrates court not crown court. Storm in a tea cup. Yep... as per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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