Westwood - 2 Games 2 Clean Sheets

[i used to be sc_owl]

2 minutes ago, belfast owl lad said:

I hope he (Dross) is thoroughly ashamed of himself,wherever he is.

 

Nailed on he is sat down somewhere. 

[Maddogbob]

Yeah, hes not bad for a 3rd choice. 

[Musn't Grumble]

Westwood's contribution is far more than just stopping shots.

[victorturner]

5 minutes ago, StudentOwl said:

We've conceded four shots on target in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded eight shots on target. 

 

We've conceded 16 shots on goal in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded 27 shots on goal.

 

It's not just as straightforward as Westwood making the difference. Undoubtedly and empirically it helps, but anyone wanting to use this as an excuse to stick the boot into Dawson is just a wee bit sad and not looking at the bigger picture of a much tighter defensive shape. 

As one of the TV reviewers said recently ( it may have been after the Swansea match) , the team was showing an inability to defend and too many shots were being allowed. Some stats were shown about this. It was not primarily about the keeper. Bullen whether by listening to the players or not has brought back the ability to defend as a team. That said, neither PNE nor Boro are heavy scorers

 

However, all fans knew that unless KW was carrying an injury affecting his ability, he was bound to be a better selection than a young keeper with bags of ability and courage, but very little experience of organising a defence already missing the experienced eye of Loovens.

To follow the decline and then departure of Loovens with omitting such a big personality keeper always needed an explanation , which supporters never received. With full backs less than outstanding, the defence was really weakened.

[victorturner]

5 minutes ago, Blue and white said:

There were a good few, however today isn't a day for nit picking and bickering, today is a day for celebrating 3 great points.

Absolutely right.

[cognacbarnowl]

10 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

This may be the case, hope it isn't, can't be that many willing to pay a good fee for a goalkeeper mid-season when he will be available for free in 6 months so might be worth keeping him for the rest of the campaign even if he doesn't want or won't get a new deal.

 

Letting him rot and giving him his money for doing nothing for 12 months has been ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

But,,,, but,,,,   his two year extension must have just kicked in after these last two matches.  Shirley????  ffs  

[roaminowl]

Was he commanding his area though? That's the question on everybody's lips tonight. 

[bobness]

The football community now has scientific evidence that mushrooms and breakfast fry ups are good for football!

[Shetland Owl]

Its all about stability, Jos changed the defence too much. Westwood is also a good organiser and gives confidence to the others around him.

[DuttyTeabags]

21 minutes ago, StudentOwl said:

We've conceded four shots on target in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded eight shots on target. 

 

We've conceded 16 shots on goal in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded 27 shots on goal.

 

It's not just as straightforward as Westwood making the difference. Undoubtedly and empirically it helps, but anyone wanting to use this as an excuse to stick the boot into Dawson is just a wee bit sad and not looking at the bigger picture of a much tighter defensive shape. 

One of Westwood strengths is marshaling the defence, he also instills confidence in the back line and no coincidence that Lees is playing better.  Settled team, proper system, and a bit of pashun. 

 

3 points at West Brom and I'll really start to believe. 

 

 

[WAWAWUTO17]

It's not just about the saves he makes. It's simply his organisation of the team. He's a leader and we should be offering him a new contract.

[scilly owl]

One doesn’t like to be disingenuous, especially at Christmas... but Jos, you fu•king chump.

The answer was almost within your gift, but for whatever reason... stubbornness, incompetence, arrogance... I don’t know what it was , you chose not to select players that would have clearly improved the situation. ( even with your energy sapping presence in the dug out)

Still, you live and learn.

[NewquayOwl]

54 minutes ago, sam1 said:

Nothing to do with Dawson being nowhere near good enough though. Wish I could be throw at my job and never get any stick for it. 

Thank god Jos and Dawson are nowhere near this team now though. 

Nob

 

[LiamK2292]

Coincidence? I think not.

 

A goalkeeper does so much more than save shots, KW's communication and positional awareness with defenders is top class.

 

There is a good keeper in Dawson but he wasn't ready for a full season at this level. Westwood is simply the better choice.

[poite]

1 hour ago, deano said:

We just look so solid again, fantastic. 

 

Absolutely baffling what was going through Jos's head. 

 

[poite]

10 minutes ago, NewquayOwl said:

Nob

 

Post, not poster

 

 

 

 

 

(But on this occasion we will let you off lol)

[Jim]

I could understand Jos not selecting Westwood when it looked like he was going to leave back in August but once September came around and he was still a Wednesday player, he should’ve been reinstated as number one. Playing Dawson week in, week out has cost us big time.

[Guest Theboylangers]

22 minutes ago, NewquayOwl said:

Nob

 

Outstanding contribution to the thread. 

 

[dewsburyowl58]

1 hour ago, StudentOwl said:

We've conceded four shots on target in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded eight shots on target. 

 

We've conceded 16 shots on goal in the last two games.

In Dawson's last two games, we conceded 27 shots on goal.

 

It's not just as straightforward as Westwood making the difference. Undoubtedly and empirically it helps, but anyone wanting to use this as an excuse to stick the boot into Dawson is just a wee bit sad and not looking at the bigger picture of a much tighter defensive shape. 

No one is having a dig at Cameron Dawson , he has all the attributes to be a top keeper , but saying Westwood is 3rd choice was ridiculous and it’s showing as most of us knew already he is up there with the best in this division whereas young Cameron is still learning . Just can’t get over anyone having a dig at Westwood , opinions eh !! 

[hirstys_achilles]

Dropping the most consistent player so far this season (Dawson) and the change in results has nothing to do with how talented the players on the pitch during or after JL reign. Westwood fans can kid themselves all they want. Players wanting Jos out is the only reason we didn't perform after international break until his sacking. Westwood was nowhere to be seen when he should have been helping Dawson and swfc. Instead he was to busy sulking on his 20k per week wages and sat on his arse doing nothing when Dawson clearly would benefit from advice and in game experience from him. I cant say for certain that this was the case in training but we all can see that during games westwood was not there at all. No matter who is No1 in managers mind westwood was still employed by swfc, but didn't have the mentality of helping the club just because he was not being picked. Last 2 results prove everything that is wrong with swfc at the moment. Players with over inflated ego having to much power over results and ultimately instigating JL demise. They decided weeks ago to not play for the manager. Fans paying top whack been blaming everyone but the players.When Dawson playing I never saw westwood on sidelines marshalling the defence like he does when he no.1.All this shows westwood cares about himself more than swfc and its fans and the results being achieved. I am as happy as any other fan with 2 wins on the trot. But any one who thinks that Jos was the cause of poor results or that everything is now ok at swfc is fooling themselves. We now know why we wasnt performing under JL. Nobody can argue now any different. Westwood only interested in helping swfc when he first choice and is happy to see us lose games and points at the expense of the club if he not rated as clubs 1st choice keeper. JL probably spotted this immediately and treat him accordingly. I only want players playing who want whats best for the club not themselves. All things considered Dawsons performances are even more impressive knowing that he did not have an experienced keeper helping him transition into 1st choice goalkeeper. I can imagine Thorniley, Penney, Baker and Preston etc had the same treatment from an outfield perspective.

Half way through season and we only 9 points off a playoff position and about the same from relegation place. Bruce as inherited a managers position with a club that has a possibility of going either way. Truth is it depends on how the players react to him that decides if they will play their best. Lets all hope they like him and manages them in a way to get the most out of them. Unfortunately that means doing things the way they want ???