Grassy knoll Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Change Championship to Premier League 2 sorted and nobody's offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalisburyOwl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I agree with him to an extent. We don’t need a Premier League 2 though, we just need a greater share of the TV revenue. The Championship is probably the most exciting and competitive league in Europe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, SalisburyOwl said: I agree with him to an extent. We don’t need a Premier League 2 though, we just need a greater share of the TV revenue. The Championship is probably the most exciting and competitive league in Europe This is why he can sell it to other broadcasters and get more money than sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We don't need a Premier league 2. Waht we need is a more equitable spread of the money generated by football and TV rights. More money filtered down the pyramid and more money spent at grass roots level by the FA. More money spent on coaches and training facilities for young players and more accessible ways into coaching. Make football coaching and running these centres a viable job. Make football a community asset. Use the vast amount of cash to make some benefit for many instead of all benefit for a few. Bring in rules that level the playing field a bit for clubs, getting rid of or allowing equitable spending to, parachute payments would be a start. Root and branch reform needed simultaneously, give us a sport we can be proud of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, SalisburyOwl said: I agree with him to an extent. We don’t need a Premier League 2 though, we just need a greater share of the TV revenue. The Championship is probably the most exciting and competitive league in Europe The problem being there that would mean the PL giving the EFL more of their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 It only works if it gets a greater share of TV income and as a result STOPS PARACHUTE PAYMENTS! They are what make the Championship unsustainable. Regardless of relegated PL clubs success or otherwise they try and buy the best Championship players. As a result other clubs try and compete. Drives transfer fees and wages up. Makes it unsustainable for other clubs to maintain a challenge over several seasons. You either make it and go up or fail and become a victim of FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Can't we just get rid of Premier League 1? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) I’m definitely in favour of the championship getting more money and stop the parachute payments. I suppose the potential danger is if there’s a premier league 2, would it reduce the excitement and interest in getting to the premier league 1? Right now we all look to get into the playoffs as we chase that golden goose, but if that just becomes a fatter turkey than the one we’ve got, will people lose interest Edited October 11, 2018 by Southie_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Why not have a premier league two three and four? or we could just call them leagues one two three and four? 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighworthOwl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Interestingly the Dutch "giants" Ajax, PSV and Feyonoord have agreed to give there European money away to be spread across the other teams in there division to improve the standard of the league and reduce the financial burden on the smaller clubs. Big clubs trying to benefit the sport within there country rather than stockpile wealth and killing competition. No chance of that happening here. The smaller premier clubs do not want to risk falling off the gravy train and if they do they want a massive advantage financially to get back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadABallacks Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We were only talking about this the other day and wondering if some sort of "breakaway" league free of FFP my form in the future, pushed by those bigger clubs and those clubs that fail to return to the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: It only works if it gets a greater share of TV income and as a result STOPS PARACHUTE PAYMENTS! They are what make the Championship unsustainable. Regardless of relegated PL clubs success or otherwise they try and buy the best Championship players. As a result other clubs try and compete. Drives transfer fees and wages up. Makes it unsustainable for other clubs to maintain a challenge over several seasons. You either make it and go up or fail and become a victim of FFP. Its not the parachute payments that are the problem, its what they are being spent on. Had parachute payments been around when we were relegated from the Premier League then we may not have been in such a financial mess. We were crippled financially by players on water tight contracts who we were paying top dollar for. Should we reach the Premier League again, I would like to think that we have the opportunity to compete by offering Premier League wages. This is where Parachute Payments are a good thing. There needs to be a rule whereby Parachute Payments are only used to cover existing player wages and not for funding additional players and therefore creating an uneven playing field in the transfer market. Clubs should have already made their money from being in the Premier League in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, HighworthOwl said: Interestingly the Dutch "giants" Ajax, PSV and Feyonoord have agreed to give there European money away to be spread across the other teams in there division to improve the standard of the league and reduce the financial burden on the smaller clubs. Big clubs trying to benefit the sport within there country rather than stockpile wealth and killing competition. No chance of that happening here. The smaller premier clubs do not want to risk falling off the gravy train and if they do they want a massive advantage financially to get back. That is an amazing initiative. Like you said though, clubs in this country are far too greedy and I can't see that ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not sure the EFL would allow it. They’d just be left with league 1 and 2 which could effectively become non league with a greater gulf in wealth. As for selling rights, despite the championship being a very competitive league and has the fourth highest average attendance, it’s tv rights are poor. Currently Quest TV (heard of them?) have the highlights package. I did think sky might show more interest and pump some more money into the league but all they have done is mess around with kick off times and introduce the red button for midweek games (some like, some don’t). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Miffed said: Its not the parachute payments that are the problem, its what they are being spent on. Had parachute payments been around when we were relegated from the Premier League then we may not have been in such a financial mess. We were crippled financially by players on water tight contracts who we were paying top dollar for. Should we reach the Premier League again, I would like to think that we have the opportunity to compete by offering Premier League wages. This is where Parachute Payments are a good thing. There needs to be a rule whereby Parachute Payments are only used to cover existing player wages and not for funding additional players and therefore creating an uneven playing field in the transfer market. Clubs should have already made their money from being in the Premier League in the first place. Or clubs could improve their contract negotiating skills in the first place...i.e relegation = massive drop in wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Only way we see an increase in tv revenue is if someone challenges Sky for the rights and drives the value up. Not sure i would hold out too much hope when the main highlights are broadcasted on Quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: It only works if it gets a greater share of TV income and as a result STOPS PARACHUTE PAYMENTS! They are what make the Championship unsustainable. Regardless of relegated PL clubs success or otherwise they try and buy the best Championship players. As a result other clubs try and compete. Drives transfer fees and wages up. Makes it unsustainable for other clubs to maintain a challenge over several seasons. You either make it and go up or fail and become a victim of FFP. We all know they'll stop parachute payments the season after we go up. They'll have been there for everyone that came down after us and they'll be there until we can't be shat on by them. I'll go and fetch my tinfoil hat now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
442 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, HighworthOwl said: Interestingly the Dutch "giants" Ajax, PSV and Feyonoord have agreed to give there European money away to be spread across the other teams in there division to improve the standard of the league and reduce the financial burden on the smaller clubs. Big clubs trying to benefit the sport within there country rather than stockpile wealth and killing competition. No chance of that happening here. The smaller premier clubs do not want to risk falling off the gravy train and if they do they want a massive advantage financially to get back. 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Won't be long before the Premier League teams negotiate their own TV money in the UK, that'll be me done with football if it happens. it's already started with overseas broadcasters hasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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