fudge27 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, T Hardy said: I wonder if people would be more in favour of it if there was relegation, and promotion to it for league winners. Yea, and if qualification from the outset was based on where you finish the season before. We could call it a league of champions or a 'Champions League' if you will. We can tweak the formats to be league or knockout and expand to include more teams and dilute the value of that competition as the years progress too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, A E Neuman NYowl said: No way will the Premier league kick them out. They will shuffle their fixture list to accomadate them. I can see these clubs pulling out of the 2 domestic cup competitions though. Agree with your assumption but that in itself would be a disgrace. It has to be all, or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, T Hardy said: I wonder if people would be more in favour of it if there was relegation, and promotion to it for league winners. They want a closed shop to keep all the money to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I don't think it's that easy, if Sky, BT turn their noses up ESPN or DAZN just come in for it. These clubs have worldwide appeal, some random Yank or Fillipino doesn't care about the history of the football league, the 92 clubs, they support Liverpool and they would prefer to see them face the biggest sides all of the time-so the money will be thrown at them. No, it's not necessarily that easy, you're right. However if, as per your example, ESPN and DAZN (and the countless others) were banned from showing domestic or cup competitions from the respective leagues (PL, Serie A and La Liga), it would quickly reduce the appeal of those stations, for the European market at least and possibly North American and Canadian. After a few seasons this lovefest will soon become boring, viewing figures will slide even in the Asian market and at that point, all of these clubs will be out on their backsides with nowhere to go. It's the real, home based fans of these clubs that I feel for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Sky and the Premier League who charged fans 14.99 in a pandemic to watch matches taking the moral high ground, fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, T Hardy said: Sky and the Premier League who charged fans 14.99 in a pandemic to watch matches taking the moral high ground, fantastic. Doesn't make his points less valid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 It won't happen It's the clubs protesting the new Champions League format, UEFA will concede and not go ahead with the restructure and the Super League idea will get put back in it's box until the big clubs want UEFA to bend over for them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: Doesn't make his points less valid When he brings up the fans and suggests they’re the ones who will suffer, it does, it’s not just specifically him but the reactions that Sky are promoting too. Funnily enough I’ve never heard them complain about how much a fan gets f*cked over who has to pay for Sky Sports. I just find is so insincere that apparently the fans matter now, only because Sky could miss out on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A E Neuman NYowl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 They will probably invite 5 crap clubs as their patsies so that these superior 11 clubs can travel the globe demonstrating their wonderful skill sets. Bit like the Harlem Globe Trotters used to do in basketball. I currently have no interest in the champion league so won't be tuning in to these games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basement Jack Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 English teams? These are not 6 English teams Tottenham excepted these are 5 foreign clubs based in English cities That is essentially what they are and that’s why they are plowing ahead with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 hours ago, bobness said: "How come nobody invited us to join? Maybe the letter got lost in the post" there was a time in my lifetime when we were one of the big 6 Even if we still were, I'm totally against this and will not subscribe to watch or listen to it I love to chuck out these arrogant billionaires from the British game, but that's not possible it's gone too far now the game's completely stuffed and I blame SKY for started this gravy train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire owl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, 0114 said: Disgraceful. They would still compete in the PL but be financially MILES ahead of everyone else, more than they currently are! Would essentially make finishing in the top 4 redundant. It completely devalues the current PL format. This decision is motivated by nothing more than money. I say kick them out the PL and let them play this super league every week. Then let’s try and build a PL where the division is more open! Make a league where everyone feels they have a chance of winning it. So what happens if they're playing Burnley on a Wednesday night,but also playing Barcelona the same night.who has preference.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Scum bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Football sold its soul years ago and this is just a continuation of it. I cant get worked up about this as some have done. If this goes ahead then top players will soon be on £1m per week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, vulva said: It’s the players that hold the key to this. Players are not going to reject the chance to earn more money. 17 minutes ago, ChapSmurf said: No, it's not necessarily that easy, you're right. However if, as per your example, ESPN and DAZN (and the countless others) were banned from showing domestic or cup competitions from the respective leagues (PL, Serie A and La Liga), it would quickly reduce the appeal of those stations, for the European market at least and possibly North American and Canadian. After a few seasons this lovefest will soon become boring, viewing figures will slide even in the Asian market and at that point, all of these clubs will be out on their backsides with nowhere to go. It's the real, home based fans of these clubs that I feel for. they would just make their own cup competition, get a load of other clubs involved. also all the American clubs are same teams every year, their fans don’t get bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: It won't happen It's the clubs protesting the new Champions League format, UEFA will concede and not go ahead with the restructure and the Super League idea will get put back in it's box until the big clubs want UEFA to bend over for them again. I thought this originally, but I’m increasingly starting to think it’s a bit of a naive view. Almost everything people are angry about today is something these people and clubs don’t care about. They want the money from this Super League and they are not bothered about people’s hot air regarding history, tradition, competition or fans. The clubs have announced they’re doing it. The veil is off. It’ll either happen now or the next time there’s a negotiating position that needs more leverage than they can get. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Football is basically FinanceBall. I agree that the players and a handful of managers hold the key somewhat - if the players join they get removed from their national teams potentially - so it’s choosing new money over playing for their country. I can’t see many top players saying a thing for now until they see how this suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, T Hardy said: When he brings up the fans and suggests they’re the ones who will suffer, it does, it’s not just specifically him but the reactions that Sky are promoting too. Funnily enough I’ve never heard them complain about how much a fan gets f*cked over who has to pay for Sky Sports. I just find is so insincere that apparently the fans matter now, only because Sky could miss out on this Sky would argue that their money has updated grounds, made the fans "matchday experience" more valued. J P Morgan will milk this for all its worth and will walk away when fans get fed up with watching the same boring fixtures year after year. Sky kept the present league format because it works, keeps the season alive for most clubs and gives clubs outside the Premier the motivation to join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Players are not going to reject the chance to earn more money. they would just make their own cup competition, get a load of other clubs involved. also all the American clubs are same teams every year, their fans don’t get bored They have never had relegation in the USA, when fans are told about our league format they love the idea of promotion and relegation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This is infinitely worse than what USA does with NFL, NBA. Their systems are set up that way. Colleges etc. This is an absolute car crash of a proposal to the systems that we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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