ChinaOwl Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 OK, I'll wish him all the best but it isn't going to make a great deal of difference to me whether or not Rio Ave are in European competitions next season so excuse me for giving it scant little concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 What on God's green earth is this thread. We don't half have some utter flouncers as fans. F.uck me. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, steelowl said: I may be on my own thinking this but the standard of the championship was/ is rubbish the hard bit to get out is consistency it needs a fit organised and motivated squad I can't agree with this. The Championship is now widely recognised as the 6th biggest league in Europe, and the intensity of it is something akin to a bar room brawl - every match/every week. It is insanely competitive, and don't even get me started on the financial iniquity which are the 'parachute' payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Just now, talon said: I can't agree with this. The Championship is now widely recognised as the 6th biggest league in Europe, and the intensity of it is something akin to a bar room brawl - every match/every week. It is insanely competitive, and don't even get me started on the financial iniquity which are the 'parachute' payments. I think you need to read again I agree the competition is intense but 'the hard bit to get out is consistency it needs a fit organised and motivated squad' which part dont you agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said: I’m not defending Monk here, but to be fair to him a lot of the sh*t he’s inherited is a legacy from Carlos’ time here. Yeah..and i suppose thatcher is still to blame for everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I wouldn't want him back because I think he messed up a lot of things that paved the way for our last couple of years but he's better than Monk and Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Personally, a manager with personality already adds that extra ten percent for me and Carlos had that, breathed it into the club and fans and players and we all got on board. I can’t imagine working for a gaffer as dull as Monk. Must be monotonous listening everyday. Our best managers have had this “personality” - Charlton, Wilko, Atkinson, Carlos. Yet we have a crop of fans who hate over confidence, being a bit bolshy, cocky, etc. The majority of Carlos’ best players were low value or free; Rhodes and Abdi were the main issues and I believe he didn’t want to sign those players. I seriously think we have advisors that are part of a network of advisors that are shifting players around Europe to earn themselves commissions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 No, we need to move on ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: Yeah..and i suppose thatcher is still to blame for everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rogers said: Our best managers have had this “personality” - Charlton, Wilko, Atkinson, Carlos. Yet we have a crop of fans who hate over confidence, being a bit bolshy, cocky, etc. The majority of Carlos’ best players were low value or free; Rhodes and Abdi were the main issues and I believe he didn’t want to sign those players. I seriously think we have advisors that are part of a network of advisors that are shifting players around Europe to earn themselves commissions. Mentioning him along side Charlton, Wilko and Atkinson is a massive insult to those names. He wasn’t even close in any way to those three. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Good luck Carlos. That photo of you in your special "favorite teams" wardrobe is one of my fondest memories...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dagmeister's Shadow said: Carlos's legacy is a club wracked by overspending and in a financial abyss. So yes I tend to agree. Responsible for overspending and a financial abyss, strange I remember him as the 1st team coach not the CEO or CFO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Spondon Owl said: Just wanted to wish Carlos and his Rio Ave team good luck for their crunch match tonight with Boavista. Europe beckons if they can better Famalicaos result with Maritimo. Would people take Carlos over Monk? Even despite Neil's constant repetition that he ruined the club and poor old Monk is having to tidy everything up for him. Let it go ffs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The club is in a completely different place now to what it was when Carlos was here. I remember both the good and bad times under Carlos and don't have anything personal against him. But in my opinion he is nowhere near the type of manager we need right now who could get this team back fighting at the right end of the table. If we get out of this mess with the EFL without to much damage and we're able to recruit properly we should be banging on Paul Cooks door immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 f oo k him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Plonk said: Only because the Monk apologists seem to blame Carlos for all Monks fuckups! I remember Carlos bottling a semi final against Huddersfield with a far better squad than monk as had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Plonk said: Wouldnt want him back, don’t wish him ill and good luck to him. But I really don’t understand this Monk is clearing up Carlos’ mess argument. I knew he left a mess behind, but there have been two managers in between. If it’s supposedly “ the same squad” well CC took that squad to two top six finishes. Jo’s turned it into a relegation side, Bruce. Got it going again, and might have made it a third top six finish ( I said might we will n3ver know) and Monk has turned it into a relegation side. so if it’s the same squad why have two managers done ok and two done crap, and if it’s not then you can’t really still blame Carlos. The real shame is Bruce didn’t hang about long enough to prove the theory. Hate those relegation squads that finish 8 points above the relegation zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Get him in quick.....a yes from me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Spondon Owl said: Just wanted to wish Carlos and his Rio Ave team good luck for their crunch match tonight with Boavista. Europe beckons if they can better Famalicaos result with Maritimo. Would people take Carlos over Monk? Even despite Neil's constant repetition that he ruined the club and poor old Monk is having to tidy everything up for him. No He ruined the club and poor old Monk is having to tidy everything up for him. 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 no no no, a thousand times NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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