DJMortimer Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: Can't believe people on here aren't rallying against the EFL... but supporting them Phook the EFL, Up The Owls Funny that; I can't believe those choosing to ignore or deny the mounting evidence that we are being operated in a naive, shambolic, irresponsible, short-term fashion in the blind hope that everything will be OK in the end. 47 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: DJMortimer, another one jumping on the condemned wagon !!! Until we are proven otherwise let’s keep an open mind and support the team. UTO Wow. Singled out by the site police for posts unacceptable to Chancellor Sutler? With such a principled and conscientious outlook as that, can I suggest you get yourself down to Hillsborough at the earliest opportunity and volunteer yourself to oversee our financial and legal dealings? Whilst somewhat acknowledging the validity of your contribution, even if we end up not facing a catastrophic penalty that could potentially damage us for years to come (a quite realistic possibility it seems to me), I hardly think such a sanctimonious attitude is appropriate. The chairman, and whoever has been advising him, have gambled the house and now we are stuck waiting for the turn of the cards. Should we get away with it; what then? There's no long-term vision and the one emergency parachute has already been deployed. Edited November 14, 2019 by DJMortimer 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, OwlLuke said: My only hope is that Wednesday have a good team of lawyers who wouldn't have allowed this unless it was done by the book. Based on what I've read however, this looks dodgy as hell and if we do get a points deduction, embargo or worse, Chansiri has to go. It doesn't look likely though does it - every time DC has surrounded himself with seemingly sensible advisers, he's rejected their advice and done it his way. Tend to agree with your second point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBQ24 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, TheEnchanter said: Prefer watching us in a relegation battle anyway. More at stake. Attendences are usually higher too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Concrete Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: “Defend’ himself from who? The fuc**n hindsight hyenas on here? The same ones who have bleated for years about our lack of ambition. The same ones who always whinged about us always being a ‘selling’ club, The ones who were gleefully parading our spending power in the Unitedites faces “You signed so & so, we signed Rhodes & Winnall”. Remember hindsight warriors? The thinly veiled insults of old tight git with his underwater phone. “Get some money spent, you tight fisted tw**t”. Remember hindsight warriors???? “Get rich quick schemes”????? Seriously??? He’s already rich and his only crime was his now obviously apparent misguided ambition to finally try and make Wednesday a force to be reckoned with. He came within a gnats co*k of pulling it off but because of the restrictive practice rules of the EFL is now paying the price. Remember everyone laughing at United languishing in the pub league while we were ‘lording it’ in the playoffs with our expensive squad. Now it seems (with hindsight) that United’s way of doing it was the correct way all along. Can’t remember too many espousing that at the time hindsight warriors. He shouldn’t have done this, he shouldn’t have done that, he should have known better. All these fuc**n football & business geniuses queuing up to crucify the guy because he at least had a go & when it went pear shaped tried anything to try & bail us out. Hindsight warriors. Experts after the event, but refuse to take a chance themselves in case it doesn’t work out. The world’s fuc***n full of them, most of them on here!!! Hi Dejphon, not reyt good news is it pal? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, alfonso123 said: Exceptional work Alfonso... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, tarn owl said: https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2019/november/club-statement/ Sheffield Wednesday note the statement issued today by the EFL and the charges contained within. These charges will be vigorously defended and the Club will be making no further comment at this time. Short but Scary Hope they turn up for this meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Will companies house have an interest is this now? or do they not get involved? Companies House don't check the technical merits of accounts but the Financial Reporting Council can. Equally if the EFL do win the argument then I suspect this being in the public domain will come to the attention of the regulators. Audit being a regulated activity. Why this will get heavily legal imo. If you are questioning the professional integrity of various people here, I can assure you they won't roll over. There can be no lower burden of proof here, the accounting standards are the judge here. Problem is there is a lot of room for judgement in accounts. The old joke is give 2 accountants the same data you will get 2 different sets of accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, OwlLuke said: Doesn't mean his position is still tenable. If most want him gone, sooner or later he'll go. Even if most people want him to go, which isn't the case at Ihe moment, it's still up to him. Even If he wants to sell, somebody has to want to buy at the price he wants. I think you're confusing changing managers with a change of ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Royal_D said: They didn’t know what ? There own rules ? Presumably they didn’t know that we had backdated the sale of the ground before the sale had been formally completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Great Big Galaa said: Just think he’s generally fed up with the hassle he’s got/getting from various quarters not least the EFL who arguably haven’t been consistent in how they govern clubs under their jurisdiction? His appearance and demeanour at the press conference to unveil Monk was of a man who wanted to be somewhere else TBH? Have to say everything that’s been done since he came has been shambolic. Utter shambles of a club. Ticket prices, club shop prices, membership prices,boxes,POTG destroyed, just everything he’s touched. He’s supposed to be a big business man. Unbelievable. If he wants out, it’s because he’s out of his depth and he’s pi55ed all his money up the tree. Thought it was last the land of milk and honey when he arrived. We signed Forestieri. Doesn’t get much better than that if your an Owl. Now we don’t even own our own ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, mkowl said: Companies House don't check the technical merits of accounts but the Financial Reporting Council can. Equally if the EFL do win the argument then I suspect this being in the public domain will come to the attention of the regulators. Audit being a regulated activity. Why this will get heavily legal imo. If you are questioning the professional integrity of various people here, I can assure you they won't roll over. There can be no lower burden of proof here, the accounting standards are the judge here. Problem is there is a lot of room for judgement in accounts. The old joke is give 2 accountants the same data you will get 2 different sets of accounts 100% this. Not just a question of saying Swfc fudged accounts. They were audited and signed off as showing a true and fair view. Will get very legal and drawn out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, mkowl said: Companies House don't check the technical merits of accounts but the Financial Reporting Council can. Equally if the EFL do win the argument then I suspect this being in the public domain will come to the attention of the regulators. Audit being a regulated activity. Why this will get heavily legal imo. If you are questioning the professional integrity of various people here, I can assure you they won't roll over. There can be no lower burden of proof here, the accounting standards are the judge here. Problem is there is a lot of room for judgement in accounts. The old joke is give 2 accountants the same data you will get 2 different sets of accounts Nice to see some proper info mk. Ditto 2 lawyers btw. Is the real danger that as in the FF case, EFL rules mean they can basically decide to believe what they want. The law or even accounting regulations have nothing to do with this. We are part of a private association with it's own set of rules by which we have to abide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, room0035 said: Every time Monk joins a club what happens...……. Pretty sure that's why DC employed him, his experience in dealing with this situation. Wednesday fans sold down the river again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 There not just accusing the club of wrong doing, there questioning the integrity of Professional accountants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drones club Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Certain best ones need to leave anyway, they are part of the deadwood now. Spell in L1 would allow us to properly play and nurture through Dawson, Penney, Thornley and possibly Borukov without harming our results. Silly. Daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: I don't want him hung mate I hope he's in it for the long haul not the long drop But I'm not naive enough to think he hasn't got stuff wrong. All this crap about folk complaining not being Wednesday fans not ever being anywhere near Hillsborough is utter crap Some fans can't see what's in front of their faces I'm there every bloody week But don't p#ss down me back and tell me it's raining Blind loyalty is fine .but I.prefer to see the crap coming Usually have quite a bit of time for your posts mate but don’t wee wee down my back either! This site has turned into a parody of itself and if you can’t see that you’ve been brainwashed...... It has utter contempt and that’s exactly what it deserves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treborowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Skyline said: Points deduction. Transfer embargo. Great to be a Wednesdayite right now Better get Penney and Kirby back soon as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, mkowl said: Companies House don't check the technical merits of accounts but the Financial Reporting Council can. Equally if the EFL do win the argument then I suspect this being in the public domain will come to the attention of the regulators. Audit being a regulated activity. Why this will get heavily legal imo. If you are questioning the professional integrity of various people here, I can assure you they won't roll over. There can be no lower burden of proof here, the accounting standards are the judge here. Problem is there is a lot of room for judgement in accounts. The old joke is give 2 accountants the same data you will get 2 different sets of accounts Carilion, Patisserie Valerie, Thomas Cook - they appear to do what's necessary to keep the client happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: There not just accusing the club of wrong doing, there questioning the integrity of Professional accountants Indeed. This could be a rather drawn out affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Sold for double what we paid for them, at worst. Other option is they're under contract so they stay. FFP is different in league 1, it basically doesnt matter. Blackburn lost 25m in their season down there. Sounds mint. Selling the nucleus of a good side and assuming we will walk the league. There are no positives from going down to league one in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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