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I know this opinion won't be popular on here but looking beyond the obvious knee jerk "Bruce is a snake" narrative, why would a manager jump ship from a club where he is loved by the fans to a club where he is already hated and are  favourites to be relegated? A club with a well known toxic atmosphere...

 

Because they are his boyhood club?

 

Not buying it.

 

I'm more inclined to believe that Bruce was unhappy at Wednesday. We already know he had showdown talks with DC about refusing to sell players. We already know he couldn't buy players.

It came out on one of the earlier twitter rumours about his departure that the chairman let him down in terms of promises given. 

 

If we were in a position to get up I don't see him jumping ship. 

 

I know this post will accumulate negs from all the usuals but it's not an opinion currently being aired on this forum which is why it should be discussed.

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1 minute ago, Beholder said:

I know this opinion won't be popular on here but looking beyond the obvious knee jerk "Bruce is a snake" narrative, why would a manager jump ship from a club where he is loved by the fans to a club where he is already hated and are  favourites to be relegated? A club with a well known toxic atmosphere...

 

Because they are his boyhood club?

 

Not buying it.

 

I'm more inclined to believe that Bruce was unhappy at Wednesday. We already know he had showdown talks with DC about refusing to sell players. We already know he couldn't buy players.

It came out on one of the earlier twitter rumours about his departure that the chairman let him down in terms of promises given. 

 

If we were in a position to get up I don't see him jumping ship. 

 

I know this post will accumulate negs from all the usuals but it's not an opinion currently being aired on this forum which is why it should be discussed.

 

Do we ? 

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The squad as it is right now - is capable of top 6 this season..  if we don't get a injury crisis.  Bruce never gave it a chance did he..  fair enough at xmas if

we was floundering and he can't bring anybody in then he may have had reason too.

 

We have cleared some deadwood - bought in some pace and drive.  

 

DC might not be refusing to sell players,  just not receiving the right bids / value.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Beholder said:

I know this opinion won't be popular on here but looking beyond the obvious knee jerk "Bruce is a snake" narrative, why would a manager jump ship from a club where he is loved by the fans to a club where he is already hated and are  favourites to be relegated? A club with a well known toxic atmosphere...

 

Because they are his boyhood club?

 

Not buying it.

 

I'm more inclined to believe that Bruce was unhappy at Wednesday. We already know he had showdown talks with DC about refusing to sell players. We already know he couldn't buy players.

It came out on one of the earlier twitter rumours about his departure that the chairman let him down in terms of promises given. 

 

If we were in a position to get up I don't see him jumping ship. 

 

I know this post will accumulate negs from all the usuals but it's not an opinion currently being aired on this forum which is why it should be discussed.

I'll be the first.

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Bruce knew the score from the beginning.  'There is no budget'.  There were no surprises here.  He said time and time again, he'd release a few, keep a few, sign 3-4 and then loan.  Nothing has happened to show that has changed at all.

 

Twitter rumours?  Really?!

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Beholder said:

I know this opinion won't be popular on here but looking beyond the obvious knee jerk "Bruce is a snake" narrative, why would a manager jump ship from a club where he is loved by the fans to a club where he is already hated and are  favourites to be relegated? A club with a well known toxic atmosphere...

 

Because they are his boyhood club?

 

Not buying it.

 

I'm more inclined to believe that Bruce was unhappy at Wednesday. We already know he had showdown talks with DC about refusing to sell players. We already know he couldn't buy players.

It came out on one of the earlier twitter rumours about his departure that the chairman let him down in terms of promises given. 

 

If we were in a position to get up I don't see him jumping ship. 

 

I know this post will accumulate negs from all the usuals but it's not an opinion currently being aired on this forum which is why it should be discussed.

He was courting Newcastle, a month ago. This wasnt about unrest.

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Whatever........who knows.....it's happened....he's gone.................f**k him.............................................we move on !!

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I don't think it matters how many arrows you fire to try to fracture the current goodwill between the Chairman and Fans. We're solid without Bruce. Good season comining.

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But we did sign players under him, and other members of staff.

 

Also, if he did leave due to broken promises from the chairman, he must be the biggest moron in the world to then sign under Ashley!

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Chansiri has a very hands on approach, Bruce probably wanted to get on with the job with no interference from above.

 

At Newcastle, although Ashley is hardly the nicest man to work for, he’s so far removed from Newcastle he probably couldn’t even name 5 of his players. 

 

Plus a rumoured 90m to spend or a transfer embargo? 

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Bruce new the situation regarding money as he mentioned in a documented interview, other than a rumour on the internet there are no solid facts he had showdown talks with Chansiri.

 

He has a history of taking a dump from a great height on previous clubs, the way I see it he fancied the Newcastle job in the Premier League and did whatever it took to get it not caring on the impact it would have on us. 

 

He has gone about it in a disgusting manner and that is what our fans are angry about. If he had come out and said look I want to manage Newcastle before I retire and this will be my last opportunity and I know its leaving Wednesday in the lurch and they have treated me well then our fans would not react like they are to him.

 

As it stands he is coming across as a liar and a man of very low morals who just looks after himself.

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Think basically a Premier League Club came calling and 90% of time a player or manager will go.
Bruce probably saw it as probably his last chance to be a manager in that league and didn't mind upsetting a few people to take it.
Realistically I am not sure what Wednesday could have done differently.

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2 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said:

Think basically a Premier League Club came calling and 90% of time a player or manager will go.
Bruce probably saw it as probably his last chance to be a manager in that league and didn't mind upsetting a few people to take it.
Realistically I am not sure what Wednesday could have done differently.

Agreed.

As others have said it's the way he's gone about it.

At least be a man and own your situation.

Time to move on.

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4 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said:

Think basically a Premier League Club came calling and 90% of time a player or manager will go.
Bruce probably saw it as probably his last chance to be a manager in that league and didn't mind upsetting a few people to take it.
Realistically I am not sure what Wednesday could have done differently.

 

I really think that’s as simple as it gets I terms of what happened. 

Pas I said earlier, I think he  would have done the same for pretty much any prem move, it’s his one last chance to be in the top limelight’s and he didn’t mind who got upset because of it. 

 

The best thing he could have done is said look it’s my last chance of managing in the prem, that’s what I want to do. 

I still think 75% would have still reacted the same way and called him names and a rat but at least he would have left with a bit of honesty. 

I don’t think that concerned him too much though. 

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Unreal this. How much more evidence do people need to see Steve Bruce for what he is?! He has jumped ship multiple times throughout his career. He was fully aware of the financial situation when he arrived at the club. The chairman has done whatever possible this summer to alleviate that situation (admittedly he could have avoided it by selling players). Our chairman gave Steve Bruce as much freedom as possible in the transfer market. Do you really think domestic signings like Odubajo and Harris were suggested from elsewhere? Also Aaron and Lazzaar for that matter? Time to close the book on this now and for everyone to accept that Steve Bruce did what he thought was best for him without any regard for this football club.

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