PhatOwl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Now is time to say so long to both. No player should act as though he is bigger than the club, and a manager pandering to his every whim, and being detrimental to team performance, no. Follow Fessi out the door Carlos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, kristmace said: If Derby have still got that £8m they can have him. Not sure he's a Gary Rowett type player. Villa will probably have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Grandad said: The crux of it all The thing is if it's not true that means that Carlos is speaking bad of players in the press which means he has to go but FF may have a future. The only feasible way for them both to stay would be if CC knows that Fessi needs this kind of thing to kick him up the arse and get him playing (a scenario I find highly unlikely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, MuddyFunkster said: You sound like Donald Trump. #Fake News Assuming it's true (doubtful), then why hasn't he gotten rid and sold at a tidy sum already? Gaffer's speaking some right pants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 If he was to leave I'd be enraged if it was to a rival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Carlos is losing the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Get rid. Thought that since the Norwich debacle last season and my mind hasn't changed since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm still fizzing from last week, and the debacle against an average Scottish side, nevermind the sheeite about the badge, playing from the first minute to the last, and yesterday's crap on top. New season, again knowing what we needed to do, and needing to start off well, and get momentum going, and we've fecked it up AGAIN! It's a bleeding shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, Grandad said: I'm absolutely amazed it took this long. This is a disgraceful interview by the manager, once again pointing the finger at the best player we have And the responses already suggest it will work. People are blaming FF instead of pointing the finger where it needs pointing. I'm done with Carlos on the strength of this. Terrible management this. Awful Hold on... Carlos getting stick from 75% of fans for not playing FF left, then when he explains why he doesn't, Carlos is at fault!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, s6 owl said: If he was to leave I'd be enraged if it was to a rival In an ideal world he doesn't go to a rival in the same league...but that's easier said than done. Perhaps we can flog him to Udders Assuming he's off, which I doubt he is. Remember the bloke went on strike last season and stuck around. Edited August 6, 2017 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 This couldn't have come at a worse time for us really. Just when the season starts it all kicks off. This really should have been dealt with off the back end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, SiJ said: Seriously starting to remember why I was enjoying the off season. I've no appetite for this season at the moment, dreading going on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 One this everyone is missing whats to say that CC didn't want to play FF there? He's played them there loads of times and he's played him wide left loads of times. oh yeah that's right, anti-CC agenda so many people on here are so incapable of independent thought it's frightening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Hold on... Carlos getting stick from 75% of fans for not playing FF left, then when he explains why he doesn't, Carlos is at fault!? It's correct he gets stick. If FF doesn't want to play there then CC tells him he's on the bench and will have to wait to play up front. Once you have players dictating where they want to play you're in trouble. Edited August 6, 2017 by DobbinTheDonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOwl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The chairman should take some responsibility if the claims about business not being done because hes out the country are true also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, MOwl said: Fernando = our Messi? Messi a few years ago demanded to play up front, which led to Ibrahimovic being sold Messi has since moved wide because of Suarez signing, not through choice. Has he mellowed as he has aged? Who knows? Criticising Fernando for this though isnt necessary though... To be honest. Messi didn't not get on the coach Messi was the best player in the world, and sure Fernando is a great dynamic attacking player, but arguably he isn't even the best player at the club (Westwood and Lee spring to mind)- never mind the league. When Forestieri is out-and-out one of the top 3 players in the league, he can demand to play where he wants. As it is, he was embarrassed last year by how on a different planet Knockaert was to him, and whilst a great player, Forestieri was nowhere near the best in the league. Why does Forestieri not have to move wide after we sign 4 class strikers for this level in Rhodes, Hooper, Winnall, Fletcher... but Messi gets moved wide through the signing of one class striker at his level? There's no other way of swinging this, it's petulance. Forestieri is another one I defended to the hilt after he made that statement apologising after the Norwich fiasco, and then he does this. One mistake, no matter how extreme, is forgivable. This is just a sign of a bloke that wants to dictate what the manager does and thus the direction of the club. Until he scores a goal a game like Messi, he is in no place to be dictating anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Hold on... Carlos getting stick from 75% of fans for not playing FF left, then when he explains why he doesn't, Carlos is at fault!? Well he is still at fault. He should say play on the left or out of the team. He's basically admitting to not being in charge of team selection. Mutiny. That's as bad as it gets for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Corneliusreeve said: I've no appetite for this season at the moment, dreading going on Saturday. Yes...feels like it's already falling apart before we've even got started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, EXCALIBUR said: i think carlos is regretting staying on and the way out is to blame the players,we have seen it before at other clubs in the past,carlos just resign and go Think he's looking for a pay off or another job. Best way to do it is get fired early on with a reputation in tact or start like a house on fire and get head hunted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Just say to him we'll don't track back end of day bannan fills in all gaps anyway don't really need Fessi to track back. Annoying thing is why now why say now not during preseason luckily it's not too late but almost could have Edited August 6, 2017 by Lomas613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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