Jump to content


Sheffield Wednesday Fan
  • Content Count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Everything posted by StudentOwl

  1. St Pauli are a better football team than Sheffield Wednesday
  2. You've clearly never been to the one in Attercliffe after 6pm
  3. No it wasn't. Dutch media had it at €4m all in... that was a fee that included appearance bonuses and a bonus upon winning promotion. €4m at the time was ~£3.2m. So £3.2m all in including promotion bonus and appearance bonus. Quite how those fees broke down and what % they made up the £3.2m is guesswork, but you could make a reasonable case that that means the up-front fee was anywhere from £2m to £3m. So, guesstimate of c.£2.5m... relatively speaking it's nowhere near £4m. The £4m came from one of either room0035 or McRightSide on here (can't remember)... where from about the beginning of October to the end of November 2017 he started with "I can't believe we wasted £3m on him" and then incrementally and slowly increasing how much we paid for him until he got to £4m. For some reason, everyone believes we paid £4m for him. I think it's because fans fell out of love with him very quickly and the natural pessimism kicked in.
  4. As sure as night follows day, a Joost van Aken thread will see post after post of people perpetuating the "he cost £4m" myth that was invented on here For the 642nd time: It was closer to half that price. Is it still too much? Sure. But one should be able to make the argument "he cost too much" without resorting to a lie.
  5. Sheffield United and Leeds both in the Premier League... coronavirus meaning no fans can attend games... the money I've completely fallen out of love with football
  6. No, and make sure you have at least two dozen tins of baked beans to see you through 'til autumn
  7. Sorry, asymptomatic basically means you're carrying the virus and can pass it on to others, but you yourself don't display any symptoms (fever, cough etc) for whatever reasons. Asymptomatic cases won't get ill or keel over randomly, but they could pass it on to others who may end up getting sick from it
  8. Based off of how immunity to viruses works, it would be extremely unlikely you can be a carrier once you've beaten coronavirus. You'd catch it again and your immune system would kill it before it had a chance to replicate enough to pass on to someone else... your body will be too good at fighting it off
  9. Three points 1. This was not an antibody test: This is a test to determine whether he has the disease, not has had it and is over it. According to the result he has and how he feels, he is an asymptomatic case and not someone who has had it and is over it. Very important difference. An asymptomatic case who currently has it could infect others with it... if he had had it and got over it he would not be infectious to others. 2. As someone who has (briefly) worked in an industry that deals with antibody testing, they will never be a quid on amazon. Once an antibody assay has been developed, your best-case scenario is it'll be about 10 or 20 quid (not that that's a huge cost in the grand scheme of things!) 3. That isn't reported in the media because it's not true, at least not with any certainty. We have no idea what % of people who catch coronavirus are asymptomatic, and assuming that the vast majority are asymptomatic is a very dangerous game to play and could result in many deaths. The latest in disease modelling suggests that the majority of cases might be asymptomatic, but the range of the possible % that could be asymptomatic is huge... and ultimately we won't know until antibody testing gets out there
  10. I think football is dead. As Wednesday fans, we have been fleeced worse than most for the capitalistic, idealistic dream of getting to the top... truth is, the country, nay the world over is in a similar boat to us, but no doubt we've had it harder than most. The number of smaller clubs that have been around for 100+ years that simply won't exist without financial aid over the next few months is staggering. After all this is over, I think people will have a new perspective on life and what is valuable to people. Wednesday provides a community for people, and that feeling is invaluable. But after all this, I'm not sure as many people will be able to condone supporting a business structure that promotes such an unsustainable and unethical practice. Football is rotten to the core, and it has felt for some time like there has been a degradation in people's love of the game in its current guise. Perhaps, once all this is over and a new perspective is reached, football as we know it will be rejected by many that would never have dreamed of doing so.
  11. To be fair, tell teams he can be used to wipe bottoms and we'll get our money back
  12. It's all well and good isolating it and sequencing it, but to produce in such a way takes a lot of resources and that takes time to set up. Once you've got the thing you're injecting into people, it has to undergo a sufficient amount of testing. The worst thing you could do is inject people with something that creates more problems a couple of months later. Even being optimistic, you'd be looking at 9 months for everything to be rubber stamped and cleared for humans and being mass produced on the required scale.
  13. Those that die from coronavirus do so as a result of interstitual pneumonia... too little oxygen gets to vital organs and they shut down due to lack of oxygen. Those with a weak immune system will find it more difficult to fight off the virus, meaning it more likely to deprive organs of oxygen. Those with 'weaker' organs will require relatively more oxygen for them to maintain function, meaning the virus has to do "less work" before the body's organs shut down.
  14. It is, but biology isn't perfect and the virus isn't that smart! Also, it looks like it takes a couple of weeks from infection before the immune system succumbs. That's long enough
  15. You're so freakin' close to understanding it. Yes, correct. Exactly right. 28,000 deaths in one flu season, and that's with us having some semblance of an innate immunity to it. Now imagine what it's going to be like when we don't have an innate immunity to it.
  16. To clarify, all of this is in relation to the current state of play in Italy... which was explicit in the original post but not in this one!
  17. Perspective: -Flu has a mortality rate of ~0.1%. Humanity has an innate immunity to many strains of flu, as we have coevolved for many years. That means there is a buffer as people who could hypothetically transmit the disease kill it off when it enters their body. -Covid-19 has a mortality rate of ~3-7%. Humanity has no innate immunity to this strain, as it originated in a different species and we lack many years of coevolution. That means there is no buffer of transmission as people cannot fight off the flu before they become another source of transmission.
  18. No, it is not. You are confusing ACTIVE cases with RESOLVED cases. When this article was written (a week ago), there were 9100 ACTIVE cases... of which the death rate was about 5%. That means there were 9100 sick people and are still sick at the time of writing. RESOLVED cases means someone had the disease and has either recovered or died. The latest statistics show that 3400 are RESOLVED cases, and of those, 40% have died. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy That does not mean a 40% death rate for the disease as a whole. That means that of people that have got it and now don't, 40% have died. As more people recover, that number will drop, but it is absolutely 100% factually correct that right now, of people that have got it and don't have it any more, 40% have died. Please do not accuse me of spreading misinformation. I am working on Covid-19 samples starting next week. I have been holding myself to the highest level of informational rigour in the Coronavirus thread thread in The Dressing Room. I am not spreading misinformation and I assure you I am taking this entire situation extremely seriously. The death rate you are talking about is based off of both active and resolved cases, and that stands at 7%. This is according to the WHO's latest sit rep. https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200314-sitrep-54-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=dcd46351_6
  19. Good job I didn't say that then, isn't it? Currently in Italy, 40% of resolved cases have resulted in death. Get your head around that. Of everyone that has caught it and doesn't have it any more, 40% are in a morgue.
  20. It's 7% of all cases, including active ones. Ie, people who still have it. 40% is of RESOLVED cases. Neither 7% nor 40% will be the correct figure once the pandemic is over.
  21. First bullet point was stated by a doctor in a Senate hearing last week. Cannot remember the name but was the one that has been critical about Trump admins response to not providing enough test. Typically 0.1% of flu cases result in death. Of "closed cases" globally, 7% have resulted in death. Even in China, where you would expect favourable statistics to be pumped out by the propaganda machine, 4% death rate. To reiterate, normal flu is 0.1%. -My second bullet point I feel like I shouldn't need to source. This is a novel virus that originated in animals. When viruses jump to a different species, there is no innate immunity in the new population. That's ubiquitous across all organisms. Only the very lucky with one-in-a-million odds of mutation will have innate immunity. Across the scale of an entire population, some groups will have stronger immunity than others (fortunately), which will be why to some individuals the symptoms will be mild. These will always be the lucky minority in the case of a virus that jumps to a different species. -Third point goes hand in hand with the second. Flu vaccine is developed months before it's rolled out, and is always very specific to only a couple of strains of flu that are projected to cause the most problems that year. This novel virus will not be affected by any existing flu vaccine
  22. -It is statistically at least 10x more deadly than flu. Currently in Italy, 40% of resolved cases have resulted in death. Get your head around that. Of everyone that has caught it and doesn't have it any more, 40% are in a morgue. -Unlike pre-existing flu viruses, humanity has no innate immunity to it. That means many, many more people can catch it, as there's no immune people in the population that act as a buffer to prevent the spread. -There is no vaccination for it. Unlike every year where thousands upon thousands of flu vaccines are given to the most vulnerable. Combine these three factors and you'll realise the potential scope for how serious this is. Unfortunately, whilst you say you're open to holding your hands up, I don't think you will. I won't look forward to point-scoring in two months' time, but rest assured I will remind you of your posts today and I promise you you will be ashamed you were ever so dismissive. Once the number of deaths per day reaches 100, I hope you find some humility.
  23. You're being dismissive of the seriousness of the situation by stating you believe everything will be back to normal in 2 months' time. You either think that because you don't understand what's going on, or because you're putting on false bravado. I hope you're right, but I think your comment will age very badly.
  • Create New...