0114 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, SwellOwl said: Derby have been charged though. Never said that they haven’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, dorian gray said: I imagine they are burning the midnight oil at efl house in search of an escape route that will have us hung, drawn, and quartered, Here we go again with the persecution complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Here we go again with the persecution complex. If we broke the rules, fool us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hodgyowl said: Tbh a part from being in the prem for a short amount of time and a few trips to Wembley and Cardiff it's wvank been a Wednesday fan, how the hell we have so many loyal fans is a miracle. I have Liverpool and Man Utd supporters in my family and they literally can’t process the notion of supporting a sh*te team for the best part of 27 years. But according to some on here we are a self entitled bunch and we should be grateful for where we are and have been putting up with Edited February 14, 2020 by Owls-Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mort AMB Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 So if found guilty and the club appeals and appeals again and again , can the EFL relegate us this season ? QPR appealed four times over three years before coughing up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: I have Liverpool and Man Utd supporters in my family and they literally can’t process the notion of supporting a sh*te team for the best part of 27 years. But according to some on here we are a self entitled bunch and we should be grateful for where we are and have been putting up with To be honest it's been quite funny watch man u fans suffer a bit the last couple of seasons, it's nothing like we've had to suffer but it's knocked the wind out of the fans sail's, the Ferguson years are well and truly gone ....the prawn sandwich is dead long live the prawn sandwich Edited February 14, 2020 by Hodgyowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I wanna moonwalk son but life’s a sh1thouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Uncle Mort AMB said: So if found guilty and the club appeals and appeals again and again , can the EFL relegate us this season ? QPR appealed four times over three years before coughing up! At the moment we are in arbitration over a ‘Board Dispute’ under EFL arbitration rules. If we lose and the charges are deemed admissible we go to a disciplinary commission who will decide the punishment. A disciplinary appeal under the arbitration rules is then possible but the decision is binding and can’t be further appealed. There’s always the courts though which is the route that QPR decided to go down I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, nilsson said: Is DC even in the country at the minute? Why is this an issue for you ? Just trying to tar Chansiri with your own particular brush me thinks. The modern world means he can respond from anywhere if he so chooses and probably will at a time of his choosing. IMO the task is to persuade the carpet baggers of the EFL to develop a different strategy, one that is far more challenging to the Championship and the FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Blackpool away is a home fixture for me. Trying to find a positive outside of Hutch and Westwood returning to the team, which would guarantee us having enough points to avoid relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 you reap what you sow. Some of our dealings are, to say the least, borderline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Imagine if you knew nothing about Wednesday, watched the shitshow at Luton and were then told that things were even more of a circus off the field! You'd almost struggle to believe it possible, yet sadly I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oz_owl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, 0114 said: Derby haven’t lied about what year the stadium was sold. That’s why we are being charged. Yup, I know that. And Derby have been charged with inflating the price of their stadium (sold for £80m, on the books for £40m - give or take a few mil). I was responding to a comment saying that we would be asking for other clubs to be punished in the same situation. The situation is selling the stadium to circumvent the FFP cap, and I'm not aware we've asked for any of the other clubs being investigated to be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Hope we get the 12 points this season and Monk can somehow string some points together. If it's 21 points realistically we are down which would be incredible considering we were 3rd at Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I am guessing the clubs demanding a points deduction are Luton, Barnsley, Wigan and Huddersfield. I've absolutely no doubt what so ever that our fan base would be shouting from the roof tops if the boot was on the other foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The way this works is there is a judgement on whether what we did with the accounts is acceptable or not. if the EFL win they will probably hit us with a fine. The issues is then if we have to move the sale of the stadium from one year to the next, then we have broken the P&S rule on losses so the EFL will then hit us with a points deduction for breaking the rules. Its a bit like giving a player a 3 match ban for a preseason game, then the season after giving the same player another ban for the same incident, but then saying it is for racism and is not the same thing so this ban will be 6 games. This unfortunately is our governing body and they are a complete joke. BUT what we have to remember all 24 teams in the league sign off on these rules so we are probably causing a lot of the problems ourselves. I wonder what point the parachute payments will be mentioned in the next EFL meeting, as they are the route cause of other teams not getting then, trying to find ways within the EFL current laws, to get around the losses limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bulgaria said: I am guessing the clubs demanding a points deduction are Luton, Barnsley, Wigan and Huddersfield. I've absolutely no doubt what so ever that our fan base would be shouting from the roof tops if the boot was on the other foot. I would assume it is probably Birmingham too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tudders Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 A few people acting ‘holier than thou’ with the ‘well you reap what you sow’ and ‘we broke the rules so it’s only fair we get punished’ angle. Would they be saying the same thing if we were still in with a realistic chance of promotion? If DC’s alleged ‘tweaks’ had put us 10 points clear at the top? Would they still have the same approach? I’m not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, oz_owl said: Yup, I know that. And Derby have been charged with inflating the price of their stadium (sold for £80m, on the books for £40m - give or take a few mil). I was responding to a comment saying that we would be asking for other clubs to be punished in the same situation. The situation is selling the stadium to circumvent the FFP cap, and I'm not aware we've asked for any of the other clubs being investigated to be punished. I thought Derby charge was to do with how the amortise their players contracts. The treat their players as an asset with a residual value at the end of their contract, but if a player is over 24 at the end of their contract they have no residual value and can leave as a free agent. So the knock on effect of this is not as much amortisation in the accounts and this helps to reduce the costs and increase profit. Kind of smart what they did but not within the football world when assets are people not objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Why is this an issue for you ? Just trying to tar Chansiri with your own particular brush me thinks. The modern world means he can respond from anywhere if he so chooses and probably will at a time of his choosing. IMO the task is to persuade the carpet baggers of the EFL to develop a different strategy, one that is far more challenging to the Championship and the FA. It’s an issue because there’s a lack of leadership and communication from the top of the club and the main man isn’t even in the country (or is he?) Every premier club has a list of all the key personnel at the club on the premier league website. I’ll pick Arsenal as an example as they’re first on the list: https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/1/Arsenal/directory Does anything like this even exist for Wednesday so we’d know who was in charge with running the club’s operations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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