Dick_Turpin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: The EFL either gave their consent or they didn't. It really is that simple. If they didn't we are screwed, if they did they havnt a leg to stand on. They said they gave consent and then extra information came to light. It all depends what that extra information is. If you tell your wife you're going to Blackpool for the weekend and she says fine but you don't tell you're going with your fancy woman when she finds out you can't say "but you told me I could go". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Can't get my head round why it's not possible to prove one way or another...and apparantly no fooooker knows why. How hard can it be for a man, to point to the rule book and say look...'it says it here'......'you can't / can backdate accounts. Or DC saying, point to where it says it's illegal to backdate / sell ground / how much for etc etc. If it ain't in the rule book they can go fooook themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Have I missed something? Whats new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, sherlyegg said: Can't get my head round why it's not possible to prove one way or another...and apparantly no fooooker knows why. How hard can it be for a man, to point to the rule book and say look...'it says it here'......'you can't / can backdate accounts. Or DC saying, point to where it says it's illegal to backdate / sell ground / how much for etc etc. If it ain't in the rule book they can go fooook themselves I think the case may be it wasn’t in the rule book but it should have been , it is now , and we want to change the goalposts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Gi us 50 points deduction now no messing around just send us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Ultimately, it will boil down to what, if any, new information came to light, which led to the EFL to renege on their previous approval. If nothing did come to light, or what did come to light was nothing of real substance, then we are probably ok. If that isn't the case, then we are even further up a certain creek without a paddle. What I will say though, is why oh why did Chansiri not just buy the stadium sooner? Why leave it to the last minute? Was he haggling over price with himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, unkastav said: Have I missed something? Whats new? Nope..Its simply that SKY have reported what we already knew...but seeing as we don't actually KNOW owt..we thought we would all start provin' that fact again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Birstall Owl said: Birmingham were given their 9 point deduction last season on the 22nd March, I presume we are looking at around the same time? It took 7 months from being charged, to being punished for Birmingham - by the same reckoning, we would be punished in June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royal_D said: This is another thing, if they find the club guilty and they charge DC with misconduct surely he’s getting banned ? That will be fantastic, the only person with the means to keep the club afloat getting banned Here’s the thing mate. We don’t have any clue about the nature of the ‘multiple counts of misconduct’ they are charged with or about sanctions for such actions if proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Ultimately, it will boil down to what, if any, new information came to light, which led to the EFL to renege on their previous approval. If nothing did come to light, or what did come to light was nothing of real substance, then we are probably ok. If that isn't the case, then we are even further up a certain creek without a paddle. What I will say though, is why oh why did Chansiri not just buy the stadium sooner? Why leave it to the last minute? Was he haggling over price with himself? Schitzophrenia....would..errr.. xplain some of the stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Ultimately, it will boil down to what, if any, new information came to light, which led to the EFL to renege on their previous approval. If nothing did come to light, or what did come to light was nothing of real substance, then we are probably ok. If that isn't the case, then we are even further up a certain creek without a paddle. What I will say though, is why oh why did Chansiri not just buy the stadium sooner? Why leave it to the last minute? Was he haggling over price with himself? Id question why he bought it if he thought there was ANY doubt that he could bypass FFP by doing so, something doesn’t add up , may well be the chairman’s fault but i ain’t sure I’m convinced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Id question why he bought it if he thought there was ANY doubt that he could bypass FFP by doing so, something doesn’t add up , may well be the chairman’s fault but i ain’t sure I’m convinced 2 outta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmb Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 No point in worrying about what might be. If it happens then it happens. Nothing we can do as fans to influence this. Inevitably we will be there again to pick up the pieces if the worst happens. If it was so clear cut we were going to get hit with a points deduction it would have happened by now. There’s clearly a lack of substantial evidence form the EFL hence the delay. Our lawyers will be lapping this up. This to me is the EFL posturing after looking incredibly weak over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Royal_D said: , it is now Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Why, so we can try to rebuild the squad under an unbongo in summer? would have thought it’s in our interest to drag out the arbitration for as long as possible and if we lose that to do the same with the disciplinary hearings That would be relevant if I mentioned we were getting a deduction. Cheers though for second quote of the day stating the obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Id question why he bought it if he thought there was ANY doubt that he could bypass FFP by doing so, something doesn’t add up , may well be the chairman’s fault but i ain’t sure I’m convinced I still dont know how you can sell something and declare you sold it a year sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, billyblack said: I still dont know how you can sell something and declare you sold it a year sooner Simply say you sent the paperwork wiv a D taxi driver.... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Is it just me thats not particularly worried about this? If we are found "guilty" I cant see more than 9-12 points being deducted, if thats the case, I don't think we will be in the bottom 3 come the end of the season. So as we are no longer looking like we have any chance of finishing top 6 it really makes no difference. I just want the end of the season to come so we can make "another" free start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, SiJ said: If nothing did come to light, or what did come to light was nothing of real substance, then we are probably ok If that were the case, surely the EFL would have dropped charges by now...because if they / we end up in court, they are gonna look very stupid. They can't argue in court over an interpretation / guess of the rules....can they? Summat int reyt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: If that were the case, surely the EFL would have dropped charges by now...because if they / we end up in court, they are gonna look very stupid. They can't argue in court over an interpretation / guess of the rules....can they? Summat int reyt. We are in court though - well kinda one step down from formal court proceedings in arbitration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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