airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Time for a protest is coming. Imagine 20+ thousand A3 posters held up during each home game saying F the EFL. Sky would have kittens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: A rogue Chairman is a rogue Chairman. It could be argued, that what with fake companies, unusual deals with Portuguese bearded men, ground sales to ourselves, the scale of our rogueness dwarfes Bury. Was Geoff not a bit of a rogue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, airborne_rat_of_s6 said: Time for a protest is coming. Imagine 20+ thousand A3 posters held up during each home game saying F the EFL. Sky would have kittens. They'd show fake crowd pics like they do with the fake crowd noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: The problem is, if the FL don't stand up to rogue Chairman, then said Chairman take the piiss. Burys Chairman did it, and unfortunately ours has tried and got caught. Wow,is there no limit to how low you'll go...............................jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: They'd show fake crowd pics like they do with the fake crowd noises. Let’s switch quickly to what’s happening at Barnsley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: The aching disappointment for me is that the club is running well now.. Since sacking Jos the club has been run much better (ticket pricing aside). Two good managerial appointments, some shrewd acquisitions and selling Joao for decent money. It’s the two years after the play off final that has put us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, nilsson said: Since sacking Jos the club has been run much better (ticket pricing aside). Two good managerial appointments, some shrewd acquisitions and selling Joao for decent money. It’s the two years after the play off final that has put us here. I honestly think that Jos was brought in on a budget to stick to a budget.. but the big earners were still being paid .. injured or not.. the only sense I can make of it was we were trying to force some high earners into a move.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Carl Shutt is God said: Absolutely right. You have however ommited a 3rd and important point. The premier league, which is where all this lunacy started. When teams are getting so much money in the premier league and then massive parachute payments then restricting the total allowed losses teams already in the EFL can make, particularly long termers like ourselves, Leeds, Forest etc, have completely had it as we would never be able to compete and eventually it would be a completely closed shop with a portion of teams already receiving parachute payments and any in the future just hoovering up all the best players as they would be the ones who could afford to pay the wages. Money, greed and an unworkable structure has basically completely ruined football. The owners bend the rules off the pitch and the players bend the rules on the pitch diving, feigning injury, timewasting, trying to argue with the ref to undermine them. It feels like at every level people are trying to bend or break the rules and get away with it. There is no such thing as the spirit of the game anymore. I absolutely hate what football has become and as I've said before I only follow it still because i love wednesday and going to Hillsborough. This^ The odds are increasingly stacked against teams outside the prem due to the massive imbalance in income. Even if a club has a wealthy chairman his hands are tied and should a club infringe the rules the punishment is severe. Maybe the authorities should put focus on developing the game in the non-prem leagues, better distributing the wealth for the wider benefit of the game, a proper clampdown zero tolerance on racism, eradication of corruption in transfer dealings...the list goes on. But no, these honourable objectives are continually given lip service as the the powers that be simply go after easier targets. I loathe what football has become and despite our grievances it will never improve because those at the highest level are not listening, they are more out of touch than ever and ultimately don't giveafuck about any club outside the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Chansiri; invested best part of 100 million in Wednesday, employs hundreds of people, pays hundreds of suppliers, pays wages, has made Wednesday compete. Steve Dale: did none of the above For all of the things we can criticise Chansiri for, he’s not a charlatan. He’s invested huge sums of his wealth in this club. I’m fairly certain he cares. Can we keep things a little more respectful? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Terrible situation we find ourselves. Things just seem to be getting worse and worse, like the last twenty years haven't been enough. Absolute shambles we are even in this position. A radical shift in the way we conduct business is imperative for our own survival. A major overhaul is required, both on and off the pitch. DC needs to take some responsibility as he is after all the owner who makes the key decisions. The people in charge of our transfers need immediate sacking imo. If you look at our signings since DC took over, it has been pretty much a scatter-gun approach. No long term planning, everything with a short term goal in place. These third party affiliates need booting out. They are not football people. DC has spent a lot of money, wisely? some of those decisions will be questioned undoubtedly. You would think with all the players we have signed, some we could have cashed in nicely and reinvested into the squad, not Wednesday no. We have turbulent times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Salmonbones said: I'm always a bit of a pessimist when it comes to the treatment of our club, but I fear a straight relegation - no points, just drop - and they will leave it as long as possible to make the decision public. I just think right now Sheffield Wednesday are unpopular and looked down on, and I don't know why. If FF were a southend player he'd have been found not guilty. The segregation issues, the closure of massive parts of the ground. I desperately want my pessimism to be unfounded. Ive thought this for a while too. Its not a persecution complex, it’s the illogical succession of negative events occurring on the club (prior to DCs time too). I genuinely think there there are many powers that be in football that do not want any good for SWFC. Like a form of unnatural justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Was Geoff not a bit of a rogue? Not being funny but has Mr Farrell annoyed you in some way? Everything he posts, you just go on about Geoff Sheard. It was years ago, move on? WAWAW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: Why the hell quote what happened to Luton then ? Because they were hit with two separate charges and points deducted from each were combined. I was pondering whether we faced the same fate. Tetchy man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeverleyOwl74 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I reckon 12 points deduction, maybe an embargo, but we're used to being down the bottom end anyway and with Monk in charge we have someone more than capable of re-routing the slide 4 wins more than we had rights the ship, so button up, get out there, put the effort in and get on with it. Nothing we as fans can do but turn up, we still saw the wins, so although it means we're lower than we should be, its not us that's done it, its the EFL with their "bouncing off the walls" approach to disciplining clubs and players. No consistency. Only way we as fans can answer the punishment in any negative way hurts the club, so best way is shut it and carry on whilst smiling, that p*sses bullies right off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Road Runner said: That bit is worrying & without reading all 60 odd pages maybe @mkowl has answered it or could answer it? I just have a feeling the EFL wouldn’t want any outsiders getting involved. I'm pretty sure everything was answered and its all solved now, but I can't for the life of me remember what page that was on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Predict 10 point fine but with amount of time it takes EFL to sort these things out it wont come into effect until start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said: I'm pretty sure everything was answered and its all solved now, but I can't for the life of me remember what page that was on... Page one post one ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Do you get a reduced points deduction if you plead ‘guilty’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 if we take whatever sanctions they give us do we then start again from scratch and have 3 years before they can hit us again or will it just roll over year by year .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Carl Shutt is God said: Absolutely right. You have however ommited a 3rd and important point. The premier league, which is where all this lunacy started. When teams are getting so much money in the premier league and then massive parachute payments then restricting the total allowed losses teams already in the EFL can make, particularly long termers like ourselves, Leeds, Forest etc, have completely had it as we would never be able to compete and eventually it would be a completely closed shop with a portion of teams already receiving parachute payments and any in the future just hoovering up all the best players as they would be the ones who could afford to pay the wages. Money, greed and an unworkable structure has basically completely ruined football. The owners bend the rules off the pitch and the players bend the rules on the pitch diving, feigning injury, timewasting, trying to argue with the ref to undermine them. It feels like at every level people are trying to bend or break the rules and get away with it. There is no such thing as the spirit of the game anymore. I absolutely hate what football has become and as I've said before I only follow it still because i love wednesday and going to Hillsborough. This is what society has become more widely as well. Never mind the details; they're boring. Look at the bright colours. Hear the loud noises. Be in awe of the celebrity players. Obsess about the glamorous clubs. Buy the chewing gum and the fluffy slippers. Visit our Twitter feed and pretend like we give the tiniest shit about you and your worthless team. What? You want to be invited to the party too? Sorry; you're not one of the beautiful people. Now f*ck off. 15 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: I honestly think that Jos was brought in on a budget to stick to a budget.. but the big earners were still being paid .. injured or not.. the only sense I can make of it was we were trying to force some high earners into a move.. It's clear something very unusual was going on during that period and I did speculate along these lines that Luhukay was appointed to be a short term sacrificial lamb for the almost inevitable difficulties that this strategy would cause. The notion that the manager exclusively was behind all those strange squad decisions was something I was not convinced by in the first instance and I believe it even less now. For me the cost-cutting became clear when we ended the previous season knowing we would only have one senior centre back on the books (and he subsequently got injured), yet didn't bring anyone else in until after the first couple of games, and they ended up being unheralded, and quite likely (despite the cover stories) cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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