A E Neuman NYowl Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 From the photo, looks like he is going to be a big beast, he has really bulked up these last 12 months. Must be at least 6 inch taller than his dad. Surely someone from within the club can act as peacemaker and try to resolve this crap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, casbahowl said: Hmmmm pretty conclusive if it’s from a friends brother who plays for one of the development squads whilst presumably still at school ? He must be at the cutting edge of the negotiations! The development squad is the under 23 so the only school he is at is the under 23's Owls team. But never mind there will always be people as yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: How much of this is actually the lad? I mean, the chairmans involved, his dad is involved, his agent is involved, the ceo is involved. I wonder what the kid actually wants and what say he's had. Exactly this. It would be interesting to put that to him e.g. forget what the club want you to do, forget what Doyen want you to do and even forget what your dad wants you to do. You’re a 19 year old lad and old enough to make your own decisions. What do you want to do? If the answer is move to a premier league club on more dollar then fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 4 hours ago, BIGRUSS said: I’d give it to the one with the biggest boobies Hirst snr then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Football politics at its worst,a bright young star,that cant play football for the club he supports. Shamefull..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendo's boots Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Flog him to Leicester but take him on loan for 2 seasons...see if he's any good then whilst they pay his wages!! We can all boo him then when he doesnt reach our ridiculous expectations and see him off!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Shocking haircut. Looks like he has just stepped off Crenshaw Boulevard in about 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Shocking haircut. Looks like he has just stepped off Crenshaw Boulevard in about 1994. Kid don’t Play He’s a bloody strapping lad now though eh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 18 hours ago, BIG D said: Big lad now and looks as if he’s spent a lot of time in the gym in his gap year. Hopefully the ‘wiser’ bit will mean he’s going to do the honourable thing? Shoes on, on the carpet... not a big fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 ...and David...untucked. At our age always untucked!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I don't know the first thing about the truth of the matter but I reckon he is a top top prospect who will go on to be a success. However, playing with similar aged kids for England on massive contracts at prem Clubs like Chelsea, Man Utd etc. has probably led him to think he deserves a similar package to them. We aren't in a position to do this despite offering to make him our highest paid youth player so we have an impasse which will probably lead him to move when he is available to do so regardless of sentiment. What I fail to understand is the Club not allowing him to play? Sounds like cutting your nose off to spite your face if you ask me which has caused even more damage to the relationship. Shame really as it will negatively affect his value to us and who knows, he could have proved himself worthy of a first team opportunity and an improved offer? Time to move on and concentrate on developing our other young prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just visiting Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 hours ago, The Captain said: The chairman does deserve some credit for engaging with fans in recent times and requesting for feedback. But ultimately the club have the final say. And the club’s actions speak louder than words. Getting back to the topic, with the benefit of hindsight, the club would have been better off selling Hirst for £2 million quid when the offer was there last summer. We won’t get that figure now, if the player left in the summer. And we could have requested a sell-on fee if Hirst was transferred. Won’t get that option if the player’s contract expires. Its very rare that we have sold any player under DC. So I personally don’t think many fans would have objected, or accused the club of being short-sighted, if the Hirst had been sold when Leicester’s offer was there. It’s unfair to suggest that the fans were part of the reason that Hirst was retained. What an odd question. You will, in fact it will make up a big part of the tribunals decision. As you say, the upfront value will have dropped but any move will be loaded with appearance add ons and sell on clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I know swfc have said it's the highest paid contract offer ever offered to a youth player but do we actually know what it is? Just because it is the highest dosent mean it is a good offer does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 What if there’s an agreement with a far bigger club than Leicester and they don’t want to advertise it? I’m not particularly interested in the ‘George isn’t that good’ brigade, they are probably the same ones who said that Reach was a waste of money, Joao was crap and wanted Dawson shipping out, all clubs have them, I well recall the ‘send Ferguson back to Aberdeen’ Man Utd football aficionados, when he’d hardly had time to take his coat off. What I will say is, if there was something sinister going on, it would have been leaked by now, keeping secrets at a football club is difficult, however it is far easier to keep private matters in the Hirst home, we will find out when whatever happens has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bigblueowl said: I know swfc have said it's the highest paid contract offer ever offered to a youth player but do we actually know what it is? Just because it is the highest dosent mean it is a good offer does it? I’ve worked in Investment banking for twenty years , earn a very decent salary and I can guarantee his offer will be far in excess of mine. For a 19 year old with no real experience in his field it will be a very good offer. When I first started working an England International I knew earned 8 times my weekly wage approx at £4K per week , that differential is now approx 50-100 times my weekly wage depending on the player. Wages in football are total madness and when clubs get in financial distress the players and other clubs get paid out but it’s the little businesses who end up out of pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 15 hours ago, @owlstalk said: George and his dad have had way way way way worse exactly right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, elyowl1 said: I’ve worked in Investment banking for twenty years , earn a very decent salary and I can guarantee his offer will be far in excess of mine. For a 19 year old with no real experience in his field it will be a very good offer. When I first started working an England International I knew earned 8 times my weekly wage approx at £4K per week , that differential is now approx 50-100 times my weekly wage depending on the player. Wages in football are total madness and when clubs get in financial distress the players and other clubs get paid out but it’s the little businesses who end up out of pocket. I agree football is total madness and I'm not for one minute trying to defend GH. But from his point of view if he knows another 3/4/5 players of his same age at other clubs who are earning far more than what he was offered then its only natural to be a little peeved don't you think? Players obviously have different abilities so better players can demand more money but again from his prospective he smashes it for England so probably thinks he is up there with the best and his offer should reflect this! Its also not his fault that Carlos completely overlooked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 10 hours ago, room0035 said: The development squad is the under 23 so the only school he is at is the under 23's Owls team. But never mind there will always be people as yourself. That’s not what you said though is it ........ ”plays for one of the development squads “ But never mind ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzamk2 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 20 hours ago, BIG D said: Big lad now and looks as if he’s spent a lot of time in the gym in his gap year. Hopefully the ‘wiser’ bit will mean he’s going to do the honourable thing? Needs to stop skipping 'legs day' at the gym... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day before Thursday Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Been said that we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes but appears to be about money because he wasn't going to be starting games for Leicester and would most likely gone out on loan, which is the plan SWFC had for him. Had he signed a contract he would now be amongst those young players who have returned and been put into the first team squad. He would probably been at Rotherham who are doing well and would have provided him with ammunition in games to score goals and enhance his reputation, experience and value. Whatever the reasons he has been given bad advise by people close to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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