Man of the match & Ratings - Charlton (H)

[OwlerIT2]

Gregory / Byers - tossed a coin and Greg’s won - they both changed the game.

Will come back later with full player ratings as need to think some more being that all are very low scores which doesn’t seem fair after win.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CircleSeven said:

Voted Sow because I think he should stay. We looked way more balanced with Gregory and Sow up front with Windass behind them. 
But Byers and Palmer were probably the standout players. 

We really did,  Sow I don’t think is finished here , far from it 

 

I think his goal in the cup, and cameo today are real positives for the lad,  he has something to offer and I agree he balances that front two ..  unlucky not to score again aswell today I thought 

[SiJ]

Palmer. 

 

The one good performer in the first half and carried on in a similar vein in the second. 

[brando]

2 hours ago, steelerian said:

I went for Gregory. I wasn't sure if it was him or Byers who changed the game more. To be fair all 4 subs (not including James in this) all had a big influence.

What's happened to Bannan

He looks dire in every game..?

[Supersiggi2]

1 hour ago, nethertonowl said:

Hennigan , for me, seemed to win every header against I guy we have struggled to deal with before. Byers changed  the game in our favour, but without Hennigan we would have already been out of it. Mentions for Palmer and Windass  

You've got to be joking

[Dutch McLovin]

Stockdale - 7

 

Ihekwe - 7

Heneghan - 6

Palmer - 8

 

Hunt - 6

Dele - 6

Vaulks - 6 
Bannan - 6

Johnson - 7

 

Paterson - 5

Windaas - 8

 

Subs, Sow - 8, Byers - 8 Barkazen - 8 

[HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU]

I went with Bakinson, he had a real presence about him, I thought he, Byers, and Gregory changed the game for us

 

Bakinson and Byers to start v Peterborough

[Bouncing Owl]

Palmer man of the match for me.

 

Byers and Gregory changed the game.

 

Heneghan was getting skinned and kept kicking the ball out of play. Had a stinker.

[Night King]

Windass MOTM. There was one piece of quality in a dire game and he produced it. 

[Night King]

Stockdale 7 Tidy and played the ball out well. 
 

ihekewe 7

Heneghen 6 Poor first half, sloppy in possession but much better second half

Palmer 7.5 Solid again

Hunt 5

Bannan 5

Fiz 5

Vaulks 5

Johnson 5

 

Windass 7.5 as above 

Patterson 5

 

Bakinson 7

Byers 7

James 6

Sow 6

 

 

 

[nethertonowl]

45 minutes ago, Supersiggi2 said:

You've got to be joking

No you might have missed the whoscored ratings in page one, ? Seems in your opinion they are wrong too, , all about opinions. 

[frastheowl]

 

Stockdale - 7 - Made of couple of saves you'd expect him to make, but did so without any bother. Not sure what went off regarding the Palmer/Heneghan mix-up, but that was a massive let off. Two clean sheets following the opening day shambles is a solid response though.

 

Ihiekwe - 7 - Defensively did OK. Still think he gets stuck into midfield too easily, which leaves space in behind. But, on the whole, did his job. Like Heneghan, I'm not convinced he's comfortable with playing out from the back.

 

Heneghan - 6 - Aerially, he was good. Against two giants, he more than held his own, and you can see why Moore pursued him. However, he's clearly uncomfortable and very limited when it comes to playing from the back. He needs to improve, otherwise it could become a bit of an issue for us.

 

Palmer - 7 - Thought he did alright, but the Charlton had the legs on him, and on a couple of occasions left him for dead. Battled away, and did a job at wing back, despite his touch failing him on more than one occasion. He's reliable, which you can't ask for more than that.

 

Hunt - 5 - His lack of a burst of pace limited him today. Failed to get little change out of the rapid Sessegnon. 

 

Johnson - 5 - Was asked to do a lot of defending today, due to our inability to pass a football for over an hour, which never brings the best out in him. Disappointed in his final ball on the occasions he did get some space in front of him.

 

Vaulks - 5 - I expressed my concerns regarding Vaulks in this system before the game, and today has only strengthened that belief. He's not a ball player, and we simply need one in that midfield two. He plugged away, but his use of the ball simply wasn't good enough.

 

Dele-Bashiru - 5 - Frustrating game. Like Vaulks, he's not a ball player, he's a carrier, and although he showed glimpses today, too often his poor decision making reared its ugly head again. Today was an example of why he's probably difficult to rely on if your Darren Moore and picking your XI.

 

Bannan - 4 - Dear me... wasn't he hopeless. I don't think he enjoys the advanced role, and it shows in his play. It doesn't suit him, and it certainly isn't suiting us at present. We are struggling to get the ball into him, and when we do, he's not finding the space he usually does. As a result, he's back to trying to force things and trying Hollywood balls that aren't on. Moore has caused himself one helluva a selection dilemma, because we cannot continue with Bannan's lack of impact or performances for much longer.

 

Paterson - 4 - Hopeless.

 

Windass - 6 - Frustrated for the most part. Like Bannan, very much on the periphery...until we took Bannan off, and dropped him into the No.10 spot. Where he showed what we should expect from that role. He found space (granted, Charlton were probably pushing their midfield on after the goal), got himself into dangerous positions, and produced a match-winning assist.

 

Gregory - 7 - Showed Paterson what a centre forward display should look like. Held the ball up, looked strong, ran in behind. Proper, proper player.

 

Byers - 7 - Changed the game, along with Gregory & Bakinson. Linked the defence and attack effortlessly. Mopped up defensively. He's a very good player, that needs to play...especially in this system. Don't feel like I can give a mark of more than 7 for a performance little over 30 minutes.

 

Bakinson - 7 - Man of the Match - Like Byers, he looks like a Rolls Royce. Seems to play the game two or three moves ahead of anybody else. Created himself a load of space, used the ball really well, and started and finished the winning goal. He's given Moore something to think about. Edged the other game changers, Byers and Gregory, to Man of the Match, simply due to his winning goal.

 

James - N/A - Did his job, looked tidy on the ball.

 

Sow - N/A - Energetic cameo. 

 

Overall...

 

Utterly woeful for 60 minutes. And the criticism I have, isn't towards the players...it's towards Moore. Now, I've got no tactical qualification, no coaching badges, nothing...but 45 minutes into the Portsmouth game, at a time when we were winning 1-0, I could see, as clear as day, the issues with this system, its imbalances, the limitations of our new signings and our struggles to get Bannan involved in the game.

 

And following MK Dons, once again, sent out with the same failing system, encountered the same issues, I expressed my concerns on here again, despite a 1-0 victory. And before the game today, in the "Team for Charlton" thread, I stated the problems again.

 

And surprise, surprise, Moore sent out, yet another, ill-thought out, imbalanced side, and our football and impact of our best player suffered yet again.

 

Now, this isn't me being smart...I'm not, far from it. But, if I can see the blindingly obvious flaws, just 45 minutes into the season, then why can't our very well paid, and extensive coaching team?

 

Surely enough is enough now. Stop picking sides on results, and start looking at performances. Byers HAS to start...Bakinson has thrust himself right into the mix with a fantastic cameo display, and Adeniran, bizarrely not even on the bench, did himself no harm on Wednesday. 

 

And I've not even going to start on picking/signing a back three, uncomfortable/incapable of taking control of the football, and insisting on playing from the back. But that's for another day.

 

I can't help but feel, that our positive results, are just a false dawn, like we had at the start of last season. Performances have been poor, issues are aplenty. Our stronger strength in depth won that game today, and maybe Moore might have stumbled across a solution with his substitutions in the 2nd half...but where does Bannan fit into it? How long do we accept poor performances from our best player? Or will Moore remain stubbornly rigid to his new, failing system?

 

[Bleeder]

2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

whoscored.com's stat-based ratings...

 

Kinell. I thought Henegan was scary 

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

Without the game appearing particularly flowery, Charlton never got behind us or upset us. We came on stronger from 60 minutes and they wilted a little. I think we got our ultimate rewards.

 

Stockdale                                                                   7

 

Palmer                                                                        8 mom

Henegan                                                                     7

Ekwe                                                                           7

 

Johnson                                                                       7

FDB                                                                               6

Bannan                                                                         7

Vaulks                                                                           6

Hunt                                                                               7

 

Paterson                                                                        6

Windass                                                                         7     Windass & Blenkinsop share Bums off seat moment !

 

Gregory                                                                           7

Byers                                                                               7

Bakinson                                                                         7     Windass & Blenkinsop share Bums off seat moment !

 

[prowl]

1 hour ago, Royal_D said:

We really did,  Sow I don’t think is finished here , far from it 

 

I think his goal in the cup, and cameo today are real positives for the lad,  he has something to offer and I agree he balances that front two ..  unlucky not to score again aswell today I thought 

I'd much rather have Sow than Patterson up front. I know Patterson works hard and knocks people around but he's just not a striker.  Sow seems to be a bit lightweight but he does find space and gets in good positions.

 

Unless we come up with a great loan player I'd hang on to Sow.

[A E Neuman NYowl]

The subs made all of the difference. Byers immediately got a grip of midfield and Gregory gave us a focal point up top.

 

That's 2 games we have won that we probably would have lost last season.

 

Stockdale.  6.5

 

Ihiekwe.  6.5

Heneghan.   6

Palmer.  7.5.     MoM

 

Hunt.  5

Fizz.  5

Vaulks.  5

Bannan.  5

Johnson.  5

 

Paterson.  4.5

Windass.  6.5

 

Byers.  7

Bakinson.  7

Gregory.  7

 

 

[legendaryswan]

Stockdale      7 did ok not overly tested                                                           

 

Palmer             8 stopped us conceding, when moved wide got 2 really decent crosses in worked very hard all game                                                     

Henegan            7 Bit of worry when hes trying to be bobby moore, otherwise hes solid                                                          

Ekwe                    7 thought he played well and passed it ok too                                                       

 

Johnson             6 its just not happening for him at the moment                                                          

FDB                      6 never really got into his stride                                                        

Bannan                6 we struggled across MF today, Baz is another thats yet to ignite                                                     

Vaulks                  6 same as above                                                         

Hunt                     5  never got a sniff today                                                         

 

Paterson              6 we didnt give him much to work with he looked very isolated                                                        

Windass               7 assist but like patterson was starved of service                                                        

[nethertonowl]

1 hour ago, Bleeder said:

Kinell. I thought Henegan was scary 

And the games only judged on now comfortable you are playing out from the back is it?, So you never came on here last season , when the site was in meltdown after conceding goals from set pieces in the air. Check out Charltons board, its full of comments about Stockley being dominated in the air and winning  f--  all.

[Holmowl]

Stockdale 9

 

Palmer 9.1

Henegan 7.5

Ikwi 7.5

 

Johnson 6

FDB 6

Bannan 6

Vaulks 5

Hunt 6

 

Paterson 5

Windass 8

 

Gregory 8

Byers 8

Bakinson 8

James 6.5

Sow 7

[beswetherick]

Byers. Changed the game, best player at the club at the moment