Pughies Jockstrap Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Whats the panic anyone would think it was a must win game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, victorturner said: Playing a new style in defence with a greenhorn in there is absolutely brainless management . We had to try something different though because we were dropping like a stone anyway and have been under three managers before Moore. It was always a long shot that it would work but I don’t blame him for trying something different. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Manwë said: As long as we are fighting for every point, fighting for the club, fighting for the shirt, we'll stay up I just want them to do what they're paid to do. Play bloody football properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Wednesday fans in wanting managers to say we've given up Amazing Fantasist UTO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: In all honesty, I'm not too concerned about relegation. As long as DM can bring in who he wants for next season. We need a fresh start, and a fresh philosophy, and it's much easier to get that particular ball rolling in the Third. Looking back over the extent of Channer's gambling project, and considering our performances, frankly (Mr Shankly) we've often been bob. But it's one thing being bob with Lee, FF, Hoops, Fletch and, yes, Dave in the team, and being poo with what we now have. Team's take liberties with us now, whereas they wouldn't have before. We could play poo and still win games, whereas nowadays we can't. We were a team dependent upon individual quality rather than team performances. No matter how disappointed we are, I think most would concur that we are playing better now, albeit with inferior quality. Agreed. I would rather end the season attacking teams and risk conceding opposed to play one up front and losing 1 0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 We've just been outfought by a team who (we were assured by some) had nothing left to play for, and would have their flip flops on. Yet they looked hungrier and quicker, and once they got their noses in front the 2nd time, we could barley lay a glove on them. Excuse me, if I call bulls**t. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Andy W said: Jamie Smith said the Owls will continue to fight for every point available this season after suffering a 4-1 defeat to QPR at the Kiyan Prince Foundation Stadium. You really could not make this sh!t up!!!@ He is telling the truth but he can’t physically win the points on the pitch, that’s down to the players. We all know how that will pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I know people are p@ssed off but damm this thread is snidey and quite petty. Must remind myself to stay off owlstalk till Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, CircleSeven said: We had to try something different though because we were dropping like a stone anyway and have been under three managers before Moore. It was always a long shot that it would work but I don’t blame him for trying something different. What they needed was the best players selected, with round pegs in round holes, totally professional management with motivational powers, compared to Neil T and Tony P both of whom threw away points, sensible substitutions and good game plans. They did not need a new system imposed overnight and an order to play it out from the back when the team needed a lift not an unnecessary challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Owly Mowly said: Nothing else he can say. I can’t fault the effort last few games - playing a new style at the last throes of the season and created a lot - bound to be vulnerable at the back Not necessarily . If new system preferred by the manager makes you more vulnerable, experienced manger would not adopt it. New systems are supposed to help the players and team , not make it more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Well fight for every point, well until we hit a bit of adversity or things don't go quite how we want to....... Then we'll simply drop our heads and capitulate as usual. Never known a more spineless and rudderless set of players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 He could have said a lot of things, such as; they were better than us today, mistakes were made that cost us, we showed promising signs in flashes but concentration was an issue, we tried to change the game but it didn't work and we lost momentum, we'll play a first half like that in future and go in 3-1 up.... but to infer that this team has fight in them, after what we've had to put up with this season, being rolled over by nearly every team in the bottom 6, no way. That is insulting and disingenuous, but what it also shows is a lack of intelligence, from someone who's game management was completely exposed today, as has been the case since Moore came in. Literally so many things he could have said, but he chose to tell fans, that with 6 games left and 7 points adrift, that this team has fight in them, despite what we've all seen this season. I am rapidly losing confidence in the ability of this coaching set up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 3 hours ago, LondonOwl313 said: I don’t remember thinking we were bottom 6 at the back under Carlos.. we equalled the clubs clean sheet record twice. Westwood, Hunt, Lees, Loovens, Pudil isn’t a bottom 6 defence by some way And yet Carlos dare not expose it. Take the away leg at Huddersfield, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Athelwulf said: And they never were, the defenders I mean, in all honesty. What did we used to say in the Carlos era? "Top six up front, bottom six at the back". That, and the lack of a midfield enforcer, is the main reason that Coco covered up and didn't play a more attacking style. The quality which Chansiri lavished his money on up front is now gone, and the defence looks very exposed indeed. Pretty sure under Carlos we had one of the better defences in the league but didn’t score as many as the top teams in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Andy W said: Jamie Smith said the Owls will continue to fight for every point available this season after suffering a 4-1 defeat to QPR at the Kiyan Prince Foundation Stadium. You really could not make this sh!t up!!!@ Would you sooner he say we’re just gonna roll over and take it up the ass? .. ffs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 4 hours ago, 83owl said: Pretty sure under Carlos we had one of the better defences in the league but didn’t score as many as the top teams in the division. True. My point was that because of Carlos' concerns about our defence we covered up and played defensively as a team. Had we been better in that department then we could have let the dog out and scored many more goals. We never got the benefit from our potent forwards. For me, one of the great what if's of that period is what would have happened had we managed to tempt Guedioura from Watford, and landed a CB. Failing to sign the former Carlos dropped Hutch back into defence, then realized that he couldn't do without him in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JOCOWl Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Sheff74 said: We've just been outfought by a team who (we were assured by some) had nothing left to play for, and would have their flip flops on. Yet they looked hungrier and quicker, and once they got their noses in front the 2nd time, we could barley lay a glove on them. Excuse me, if I call bulls**t. Think it's our lot that have been playing with flip flops on... But it only for about 30 games.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 12 hours ago, @owlstalk said: What should he have said instead? “I’m very sorry about the performance. It was unacceptable and the players we have at the club, especially the ones who are out of contract at the end of the season are crap”. That would be a start for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 After thumping Cardiff 5-0, we get turned over in style 4-1 by QPR. A mid-table team with nothing to play for & we're supposed to be 'fighting for every point' against them. Somebody is telling fibs about the fighting bit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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