0742 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DlNGLE said: We’re making poor investments all the time, but at the same we’ve got 5or6 sort after players that are well worth a few quid, we’re getting the best out of a very low budget, due to having a very good recruitment policy/strategy coupled with a brilliant data driven recruitment team. Who are finding young undervalued players with plenty of room for improvement all the time, and we’re employing good coaches with proven ability to play the style of football we’ve recruited for, as well as a record of developing players. whilst the players will inevitably be sold at some point if the do indeed realise their undoubted potential, as long as we reap the rewards on the pitch before they are sold we’ll be fine and continue to move forward as a club, because the people behind their recruitment in the first place, will continue to keep recruiting in the same manor. It's a matter of time before your recruitment team is broken up and poached too. Football is all about money and status. Barnsley is and always will be a stepping stone club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DlNGLE said: We’re making poor investments all the time, but at the same we’ve got 5or6 sort after players that are well worth a few quid, we’re getting the best out of a very low budget, due to having a very good recruitment policy/strategy coupled with a brilliant data driven recruitment team. Who are finding young undervalued players with plenty of room for improvement all the time, and we’re employing good coaches with proven ability to play the style of football we’ve recruited for, as well as a record of developing players. whilst the players will inevitably be sold at some point if the do indeed realise their undoubted potential, as long as we reap the rewards on the pitch before they are sold we’ll be fine and continue to move forward as a club, because the people behind their recruitment in the first place, will continue to keep recruiting in the same manor. Terrible grammar, and wrong forum Si thee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: (as long as the chairman pays them) Think Neil needs a bit of code that automatically inserts this caveat onto the end of every post we make! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, BRUCE LEE said: Did he play with Jordan Jones? Rangers flogging him for peanuts Wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole. Complete prat with far less footballing ability than he’d like to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 23 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: If Wilder wants it Wilder gets it. And he wants it. Now 16/1 at skybet, wonder whats happened there then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, s29wfc said: Now 16/1 at skybet, wonder whats happened there then I repeat. Where was Moore in our odds. Don't read into bookies odds. Especially ******** like manager specials. It's a small market with about 200 quid on it. Could put a tenner on someone who's 50s now and he'll shoot up to 5th fav. If Swansea want Wilder he will go. Simple as. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: Yeah could go either way. I’m just glad we’ve signed a proper centre forward who (hopefully) can hold the ball up and give us a bit of a focal point up top. Paterson is a work horse and puts himself about, but I don’t think he really has presence up top. Just has a bit of a habit of being in the right place every now and again. Agree with this. He may not be prolific, but if he can hold it up and get 8-12 goals then I think he could turn out to be a decent signing. We’ve needed a back to the goal striker since Fletcher & Nuhiu left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: I repeat. Where was Moore in our odds. Don't read into bookies odds. Especially ******** like manager specials. It's a small market with about 200 quid on it. Could put a tenner on someone who's 50s now and he'll shoot up to 5th fav. If Swansea want Wilder he will go. Simple as. Ahh but that's not what you said yesterday, you said if Wilder wants it Wilder gets it and Wilder wants it. Now your changing it to if Swansea want him. They want him that much that they are about to pay Mk Dons compo for Russell Martin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DlNGLE Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, 0742 said: It's a matter of time before your recruitment team is broken up and poached too. Football is all about money and status. Barnsley is and always will be a stepping stone club. As long as they keep moving on, (being “poached”) they’ll have been doing a good job, the worry is they stay here long term, but whilst ever the bloke who brought data analysts into sport is a stake holder in the club, I can’t imagine highly regarded people in this field not wanting to come and work with/for him. Every club is just a steppingstone for players wanting to reach the top, and if you manage to get players that don’t see your club as a steppingstone, you’re probably recruiting the wrong players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I've been very impressed by the transfer business that Darren Moore has done so far - most excited about Wing, but also think Hunt, BPH, Adeniran (from little I've seen), Shodipo, etc. are exactly the kind of players we need. The one player I'm not that keen on us signing is Byers. Some Swansea fans seem to rate him, but it just strikes me as a similar kind of move as to when we signed Jordan Rhodes when we had just signed Winnall on top of having Joao, Hooper, Fletcher, Nuhiu and young Hirst (before both sides ruined him). With Bannan near to ever-present, Wing as the more attacking option and Luongo/Adeniran competing for the spot alongside Bannan it seems like overkill to sign another player who plays a similar role to Bannan. Particularly one with a patchy injury record. Better to have Dele-Bashiru, Alex Hunt and Waldock as backup. If we have injuries Wing can also drop deeper (with Paterson as the attacking midfielder) or Hutchinson can also play midfield. Think the squad is nearly taking shape, but if we have space for a couple more then another striker or another winger like Sims seems like a much more strategic signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Clubs Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 So according to Moore we are after the following positions. Some of them we can put names to as there are strong links currently. The others I have no idea as Kamberi came out of nowhere. Centre Back Left Back Centre Midfield Winger Striker Cant help but think Moore is keen on Jamie McCart for CB as he was very vocal in his admiration. Jaden Brown signed out of nowhere so no clue who his LB targets are now. George Byers seems to be the CM that he’s identified. Josh Sims and/or Marvin Johnson seem to be the winger option. Presently with Kamberi, Paterson and Adedoyin vying for the single striker slot DM wants one more. Could it be a nippy box player or another in the Kamberi mould? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl84 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: I repeat. Where was Moore in our odds. Don't read into bookies odds. Especially ******** like manager specials. It's a small market with about 200 quid on it. Could put a tenner on someone who's 50s now and he'll shoot up to 5th fav. If Swansea want Wilder he will go. Simple as. You original said if Wilder wants it Wider gets it now saying if Swansea want Wilder two very different things. They want the MK Dons manager and have asked for permission to speak with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 if the rumours are looking to be true are squad could be looking very healthy soon those slating kamberi I think we should trust in Moore he has put an attacking side together and personally o though we needed a focal big man up top who isn’t just a lump and is semi mobile for me kamberi ticks those boxes I’m no doubt this team will create and when it’s settled will be battling out at the right end if the division we could have ourself a team to be proud of here front foot attacking football page down the sides solid at the back passing through the middle we’ve still got windass to consider too plus another striker maybe plus another Cb maybe think Moore and co have done terrific myself personally I think we go into a worst division with a better squad Bench wildsmith Dunkley Palmer Brown Adrienin Byres Green Patterson 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: I've been very impressed by the transfer business that Darren Moore has done so far - most excited about Wing, but also think Hunt, BPH, Adeniran (from little I've seen), Shodipo, etc. are exactly the kind of players we need. The one player I'm not that keen on us signing is Byers. Some Swansea fans seem to rate him, but it just strikes me as a similar kind of move as to when we signed Jordan Rhodes when we had just signed Winnall on top of having Joao, Hooper, Fletcher, Nuhiu and young Hirst (before both sides ruined him). With Bannan near to ever-present, Wing as the more attacking option and Luongo/Adeniran competing for the spot alongside Bannan it seems like overkill to sign another player who plays a similar role to Bannan. Particularly one with a patchy injury record. Better to have Dele-Bashiru, Alex Hunt and Waldock as backup. If we have injuries Wing can also drop deeper (with Paterson as the attacking midfielder) or Hutchinson can also play midfield. Think the squad is nearly taking shape, but if we have space for a couple more then another striker or another winger like Sims seems like a much more strategic signing. Agree with your comments mate. But….we do need an alternative to Baz. As good as he can be, he can also drop down gears, plus he will be targeted in this division for attention. We need to be able to play, create and win without him. A fully fit Luongo gives us that, we all know he’s a bit soft. Given the weakness of our midfield over recent years, I think someone like Byers would bring a lot to our adaptability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, fpowl said: if the rumours are looking to be true are squad could be looking very healthy soon those slating kamberi I think we should trust in Moore he has put an attacking side together and personally o though we needed a focal big man up top who isn’t just a lump and is semi mobile for me kamberi ticks those boxes I’m no doubt this team will create and when it’s settled will be battling out at the right end if the division we could have ourself a team to be proud of here front foot attacking football page down the sides solid at the back passing through the middle we’ve still got windass to consider too plus another striker maybe plus another Cb maybe think Moore and co have done terrific myself personally I think we go into a worst division with a better squad Bench wildsmith Dunkley Palmer Brown Adrienin Byres Green Patterson Agree tho I feel playing Marvin Johnson at left back is similar to putting Reach there. Sure they can “do a job” but not their strongest suit. If we can get the following in then we are looking very strong CB (to compete with Hutch on left side) CM (Byers) W (Sims) ST (Young PL striker on loan) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Agree tho I feel playing Marvin Johnson at left back is similar to putting Reach there. Sure they can “do a job” but not their strongest suit. If we can get the following in then we are looking very strong CB (to compete with Hutch on left side) CM (Byers) W (Sims) ST (Young PL striker on loan) I was in three minds where to go with that position tbf and I agree but judging on how hunt has spoken I think Moore is going to want his full backs to push on as more wing backs which Johnson has played could go with brown or Palmer vibe benched them both my main point is we have flexibility and depth in this team now where we aren’t looking at being playoff contenders but challenging for automatics and if we gel and get those last few signings right there’s no reason why we can’t some people will still have us fighting relegation though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, fpowl said: if the rumours are looking to be true are squad could be looking very healthy soon those slating kamberi I think we should trust in Moore he has put an attacking side together and personally o though we needed a focal big man up top who isn’t just a lump and is semi mobile for me kamberi ticks those boxes I’m no doubt this team will create and when it’s settled will be battling out at the right end if the division we could have ourself a team to be proud of here front foot attacking football page down the sides solid at the back passing through the middle we’ve still got windass to consider too plus another striker maybe plus another Cb maybe think Moore and co have done terrific myself personally I think we go into a worst division with a better squad Bench wildsmith Dunkley Palmer Brown Adrienin Byres Green Patterson Like the look of that team, getting relegated this is what I wanted to see , new faces I hope we can just keep assembling it and just add to it next season now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Marvin Johnson signing isn’t for left back imo , it’s left wing , he could do a job there but brown n Palmer will be likely to play left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screen Door Slams Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Connor Ogilvie would be my shout for left back..........................and still available on a free. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 seems strange to me that we need another LB with Brown and Palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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