@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: We almost had more shots on target in Monks last game then pulis has managed in six. Exactly Then he says 'ahhh I can't do it with this squad I need a new squad buying for me in January' WTF Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Monk's form when he was sacked says he'd have kept us up Pulis has come in and done worse You honestly don't believe Monk would have kept us up because he wouldn't have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Make more subs earlier then! The subs are not good enough or fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: he's got a squad full of players who are pretty much all out of contract this coming summer mate so not sure that would be the best way of man managing them Pretty much what the last bloke did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Monk's form when he was sacked says he'd have kept us up Pulis has come in and done worse Feel free to do them Pulis jokes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Animis said: Whatever league we're in, and it's certainly looks like league 1, we need a new philosophy; culture and players. I genuinely wouldn't care less if they all left - I have no affinity to any of them; just numbness watching them wander around aimlessly. This group is spineless, symptomatic of the way it’s run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Fair point. But at 2-0 down at half-time what is the point in bringing Joey on? Might as well give it a go with Brown. Agree. JP you bring on at half time when you’re 2-0 up, not to get you back into a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Exactly Then he says 'ahhh I can't do it with this squad I need a new squad buying for me in January' WTF Don’t think anyone would keep this team in the division in all honesty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: The manager he replaced was responsible for players leaving and new players being brought in in the summer. The state of the current squad happened on his watch. The last 6 games have also been tough games, certainly in comparison to getting stuffed by Wycombe Rotherham and Luton. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, WhiteOwl91 said: The manager he replaced was responsible for players leaving and new players being brought in in the summer. The state of the current squad happened on his watch. The last 6 games have also been tough games, certainly in comparison to getting stuffed by Wycombe Rotherham and Luton. Oh ffs - come on now We were assured by people who posted that anyone could come in and get more out of this squad through better man management than Monk was capable of Six games in and not a single win, but more importantly possession has dropped to about 30% of games, no shots on goal, no shots on target, goals have disappeared and we're looking relegated already Bottom line is things have got WORSE not better since Monk was replaced Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: That's even more of a reason to just stop saying 'we need to get to january and get players in' It makes him look weak and unable to manage the players at his disposal How many games are there till January's transfer window closes? What are the fans to do / expect before then if the brand new manager is doing way worse than the manager he replaced, hasn't won a single game, our shots on goal have dissappeared and now he's saying he needs to get to January and bring new players in just weeks after walking into a squad where man management of the players here is needed desperaetly? I suppose you could give him credit for being honest - he has a reputation for wearing his heart on his sleeve. However, I'm not sure if reverse psychology will work with this group. There strike me as being particularly mentally fragile. Yes, games are ticking off and the current game stats are shocking, but the 2020 stats are up there with the two worst years in a century. It's difficult to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Monk was pi55ing himself every time he walked down the tunnel. Tbh, wish he was still doing it.. Edited December 8, 2020 by sherlyegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes or die Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Which is fine - I fully accept that But this is a manager who's come in, played six games, got hardly any shots on the opponents goal, collected red and yellow cards, got ZERO wins and made things even worse than the manager was doing who got sacked before he came I find it disgusting to then say 'yeah but I can't do owt with this lot - I want a new squad in January' etc No chance If he was maintaining the results and form that Monk was getting then yeah I'd find that totally acceptable But to come in, for our form to collapse, and for us not to win a single game in six and then tell us he can't do what Monk was doing without new players makes me sick to my stomach "for our form to collapse" that bit made me laugh. What form?? Limping from one game to the next with the starting XI changing every game? Pulis should go through this squad like a dose of salts. Total rebuild this one I'm afraid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, hugeowl said: I would like someone explain to me why we changed the formation of the back line after 10 minutes It was like a fire drill every body changed places We seemed to change shape about 3 times in the first 10-15 minutes. That says to me the manager doesn’t know what he’s doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, GMOwl72 said: Don’t think anyone would keep this team in the division in all honesty. Monk's form was showing enough to keep us up when he was replaced I was hoping the change would mean we'd move up the table and get better We've got worse We've actually got worse than Garry Monk 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: he's 6 games into a new club He shouldn't be saying 'this squad isn't good enough. I can't man manage them or set them up to win. I need a whole new squad buying for me' ffs You spent the last few weeks of Monks reign saying exactly that! Though I agree it aint good for the manager to be saying it in public and he has been brought in with the remit of making a better job of it than the last manager and as things stand despite the very low bar set for him, he is failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I thought he dropped one tonight. I thought the line up looked good, but then he set them up in a way which didn’t make much sense. He knew it so he changed it, but it was too late by then. The other things that was apparent is that some of the players were out on their feet from the start. Paterson in particular looked extremely fatigued I would hoe that Pulis can better balance his preferred line up with a bit more sensible rotation in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Tone has never been relegated. And then up pops SWFC to break that record.. It's the Wednesday way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Animis said: I suppose you could give him credit for being honest - he has a reputation for wearing his heart on his sleeve. However, I'm not sure if reverse psychology will work with this group. There strike me as being particularly mentally fragile. This is all true Plus the majority of them have been allowed to get to the point where they are all out of contract in a few months (yep - as a club we've managed to do this AGAIN) Remember after Christmas and then Monk tried to motivate players who's contracts were up? Well this time it's way more players out of contract in the summer than back then 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 What he said about the lack of leadership on the pitch is absolutely spot on. It’s a huge factor for me. Not easily solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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