Howards back Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: No, we won't but if we're slapped with a 21 point deduction next season we may as well go down this year, awful as it would be. We don’t want to go down this year. There may not be a league one and two next season. I can’t see teams being able to survive in those leagues without crowds so I can see many going to the wall. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: Against Hudds we didn’t exactly throw 3-4 attacking players on to get a winner if we are desperate for points. Right lads up and at em....pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, waving his -21 pts flag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve Down South said: Surely a points deduction next season (if it comes) would be better?. Might help create a siege mentality which, together with a few new players, hopefully results in greater determination, better team spirit and ultimately avoidance of relegation against the odds. That in itself would feel like reaching the play-offs, then HMS PTL can set sail again in 21/22! If we were to be relegated this season, that could be us gone for 10 years - and might cause Chansiri to rethink his commitment to financing us, which could get very messy. It's really not a good thing. Pretty much renders the next season meaningless. Now bare with me on this, my point being its a massively demotivating, may strip the club of revenue, surely nobody wants to watch a loaded dice relegation scrap? Effects recruitment, for the reason above and we need players. Lastly, what's the point of being in a league, you can't win? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Lastly, what's the point of being in a league, you can't win? Dunno....though we try some years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If it is -21 then that's two seasons written off, next season bravely battling relegation (not succeeding)and the season after in the pub league, if its even still running by then. If you think about it even -12 means 60 plus points to avoid the drop. Whatever way we look at it, this is the most depressing time to be an owls fan in a long time. I include the early 2000's in that as at least we started each season on zero points and a glimmer of hope. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Think we will be 20/1 to avoid relegation next season, assuming start on ,-21. I will be lumping on.. Will also be selling Steve Mcqueen Tshirts. Make a fortune. Or could lose like i usually do when i back us to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: It's really not a good thing. Pretty much renders the next season meaningless. Now bare with me on this, my point being its a massively demotivating, may strip the club of revenue, surely nobody wants to watch a loaded dice relegation scrap? Effects recruitment, for the reason above and we need players. Lastly, what's the point of being in a league, you can't win? I agree mate. If they are going to hit us with a points deduction , do it this season and relegate us now so we can start afresh next season with a clean slate rather than having the Reapers axe hovering above our heads all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 We won’t get -21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Howards back said: We don’t want to go down this year. There may not be a league one and two next season. I can’t see teams being able to survive in those leagues without crowds so I can see many going to the wall. We could pizz the league then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, sherlyegg said: Fulham were abit shyte for half a season.. And even crappy reading had a pop.. Forest have come good since we pasted em at their place. Anyone can come good, as you say .... and anyone can become crap, as we did 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Can't believe anyone in their right mind would choose to be in League One next season. There's simply too many reasons against it, namely financial with much reduced TV rights, whether the league goes ahead at all, but most of all, taking a step down takes you a step down from where you want to be. It's a competition, please remember that. If we started on -21 in the championship, then the pressure is off and expectations low. I'm not saying we'd stay up, but we'd have a slim chance of staying up. Wednesday perform better when we're not expecting owt. League One can't survive on 10% gates, and if there's no opposition, there's no Wednesday. Next season of all seasons could change the bottom two tiers for a generation, we don't want to be among them. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Manwë said: Can't believe anyone in their right mind would choose to be in League One next season. There's simply too many reasons against it, namely financial with much reduced TV rights, whether the league goes ahead at all, but most of all, taking a step down takes you a step down from where you want to be. It's a competition, please remember that. If we started on -21 in the championship, then the pressure is off and expectations low. I'm not saying we'd stay up, but we'd have a slim chance of staying up. Wednesday perform better when we're not expecting owt. League One can't survive on 10% gates, and if there's no opposition, there's no Wednesday. Next season of all seasons could change the bottom two tiers for a generation, we don't want to be among them. Not sure what I prefer if it actually was 21 pts It would probably be just delaying relegation for another year as we would need around 70 points Add to that the problem of signing quality players with that kind of sentence hanging over us Can't see any player with ambition signing in to that But let's not forget where all this 21 point stuff has come from ........The Daily Mail! And if it did turn out to be true, the club should find out from the league why the hell newspapers got to know the outcome before anyone else Edited July 22, 2020 by the monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, new zealand owl said: If it is -21 then that's two seasons written off, next season bravely battling relegation (not succeeding)and the season after in the pub league, if its even still running by then. If you think about it even -12 means 60 plus points to avoid the drop. Whatever way we look at it, this is the most depressing time to be an owls fan in a long time. I include the early 2000's in that as at least we started each season on zero points and a glimmer of hope. It is when you consider we were a blank canvas just begging for investment, sadly we got taken over by the wrong guy and now look at it, it's a complete car crash. Years and money wasted down to sheer incompetence and pig headedness. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Blue and white said: It is when you consider we were a blank canvas just begging for investment, sadly we got taken over by the wrong guy and now look at it, it's a complete car crash. Years and money wasted down to sheer incompetence and pig headedness. Totally, You get the feeling if Netflix picked us rather than Sunderland for the documentary series it would've been even more essential viewing and highly rated with 10 times the amount of comedy for the outsider looking in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Press conference 10am!! https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Manwë said: Can't believe anyone in their right mind would choose to be in League One next season. There's simply too many reasons against it, namely financial with much reduced TV rights, whether the league goes ahead at all, but most of all, taking a step down takes you a step down from where you want to be. It's a competition, please remember that. If we started on -21 in the championship, then the pressure is off and expectations low. I'm not saying we'd stay up, but we'd have a slim chance of staying up. Wednesday perform better when we're not expecting owt. League One can't survive on 10% gates, and if there's no opposition, there's no Wednesday. Next season of all seasons could change the bottom two tiers for a generation, we don't want to be among them. Well we shouldn't have broken the rules (in the efl's eyes anyway). it's not a case of wanting to be in league 1, we may have no choice. We need to take the punishment and move on from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Press conference 10am!! https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0 Fantastic. I had a boy in my class prank me with that in his homework project a few months ago. Always brings a smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) My theory (of 39 in total) We were found guilty weeks ago (as some of us have heard from good sources) and we’re looking at 9 or 12 point deduction. However, the EFL know we’d appeal and that appeal wouldn’t be heard until after the last game - which could relegate the 4rh bottom if we’re successful. so the EFL and DC agree the announcement will be made after tonight. That means the appeal won’t be heard until AFTER 4th August, the official end of the season. So any points deduction will be next season. whoever finishes 3rd bottom haven’t go a case to sue the EFL because the EFL are following their rules. Also - DC would agree to that. Edited July 22, 2020 by Essix Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: My theory (of 39 in total) We were found guilty weeks ago (as some of us have heard from good sources) and we’re looking at 9 or 12 point deduction. However, the EFL know we’d appeal and that appeal wouldn’t be heard until after the last game - which could relegate the 4rh bottom if we’re successful. so the EFL and DC agree the announcement will be made after tonight. That means the appeal won’t be heard until AFTER 4th August, the official end of the season. So any points deduction will be next season. whoever finishes 3rd bottom haven’t go a case to sue the EFL because the EFL are following their rules. Also - DC would agree to that. So your theory is that, the EFL will happily be complicit in the relegation of a club, to aid a club who has continually flaunted FFP rules? Doesn’t seem likely to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: So your theory is that, the EFL will happily be complicit in the relegation of a club, to aid a club who has continually flaunted FFP rules? Doesn’t seem likely to me. What’s the alternative? They deduct us points 2 weeks ago, we are relegated tonight yet appeal and win, so 4th bottom who were safe get relegated a week after the last game. That doesn’t seem likely the EFL would let that happen IMO ALSO. There’s a chance even with a deduction we win tonight and stay up anyway. Edited July 22, 2020 by Essix Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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