upperwinngardensowl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I am afraid he has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, 2roland2 said: I ain’t going to argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Recently, him and Borner have been woeful. Lees has been so indecisive and panicky, whilst Borner is so rash at the moment. Not a good combination. Loom like an accident waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Prince said: Bates must be awful if he can’t get a game ahead Lees. And he cant get anywhere near squad so who the hell advised we sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 The sign of a good player is the time it takes between thinking and acting. He's a slow thinker and that is why Leeds got rid of him. His reactions are poor, his passing is the worst in the team after Dawson. He has no pace and cannot read the game. He gives little or no direction on the pitch. He isn't a leader in what he does, in what he says and in how he conducts himself. We don't have a natural leader in the team at the mo. He concedes ridiculous fouls and is very naive in challenges. He is solid and can win a few headers but that only gets you so far. Iorfa and Borner flounder with him between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieowl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Only seen Bates at rovrum game but looked ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 He's just another on the long list of players who should be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I’ve no problem with people arguing he’s not what he used to be and we need to move on, but saying he’s arguably THE worst defender in the whole league, ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbobbins Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Seems like he can't play with Borner for whatever reason. We have to stick with Borner Iorfa partnership at centre back. I'd rather see banjo playing than Lees at CB right now. Liability. Lees and Dawson need to take a kicking and passing class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, james o connor said: He’s crap although border ain’t much better at he moment Alan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhiteOwl91 said: I’ve no problem with people arguing he’s not what he used to be and we need to move on, but saying he’s arguably THE worst defender in the whole league, ridiculous. Wouldn't swap any Barnsley or Luton 1st team CB for him right now. But I'll say 2nd worst if that helps. Edited February 8, 2020 by sMacLean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, 2roland2 said: when he’s next to a good experienced vocal centre half, like he was with loovens he looked brilliant ( he needs someone organising him for the full game) without that he’s horrific. He's meant to be our captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, 2roland2 said: when he’s next to a good experienced vocal centre half, like he was with loovens he looked brilliant ( he needs someone organising him for the full game) without that he’s horrific. Exactly! Why anyone thought he'd make a good captain is anyone's guess. If it can't organise himself how can he organise the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, sMacLean said: Arugably the worst defender in the league. Fallen to pieces last 2 years. No pace, can't tackle, can't pass and is our Mr Panic. Bit extreme to say the least. We have a couple of CBs now in Iorfa and Borner that are playing better than him now, that’s all it is. His ball-at-feet place has always been his achiles heel so that’s no mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Junk Smuggler said: Bit extreme to say the least. We have a couple of CBs now in Iorfa and Borner that are playing better than him now, that’s all it is. His ball-at-feet place has always been his achiles heel so that’s no mystery. Hutch at CB would be better than Lees.. Then we have Urhoghide who is a CB . Lees should be way down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 He has gone a bit turdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Hutch at CB would be better than Lees.. Then we have Urhoghide who is a CB . Lees should be way down the pecking order. If Hutchinson had’ve been playing, we’d have cruises through today... Because we wouldn’t have have JP, or we wouldn’t have had to move Iorfa to RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, toooldforthis said: The sign of a good player is the time it takes between thinking and acting. He's a slow thinker and that is why Leeds got rid of him. His reactions are poor, his passing is the worst in the team after Dawson. He has no pace and cannot read the game. He gives little or no direction on the pitch. He isn't a leader in what he does, in what he says and in how he conducts himself. We don't have a natural leader in the team at the mo. He concedes ridiculous fouls and is very naive in challenges. He is solid and can win a few headers but that only gets you so far. Iorfa and Borner flounder with him between them. And what about Iorfa and Borner without Lees? Do you think that is working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Weak centre back, not captain material usually looked after by his partner. No pace not enough aggression and weak minded and no other position. Probably a much nicer man though than the nasties Hutchinson and Westwood. When Thorniley was here he took care of the physical stuff and looked after Tom particularly when assombalonga was bullying him. Tom would have been fifth choice centre back for me before JT went. Nice bloke but out of his depth in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've no idea why Lees is captain but he's not as bad as posters are making out. he's a solid Championship defender. He does need a vocal player along side him but he's good when that happens. Good with Loovens, good with Hector, struggled this year. Iorfa isn't perfect but him and Borner work well together. Lees, Borner seemes to be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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