Dylan93 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just now, LoOkOut said: True but why not start to give abdi a go instead of jones? People are going on about the defence because hunt and pudil today were league one at best. I'd love to give him a go! They always been. Look at the first season under CC. Most goals we conceded was from wide situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Let's be honest that Rangers squad is bang average. Most teams in the Championship have better squads than them. Maybe CC told them to play crap so DC would sign some new players :-) seems CC yet again has his favourite players and will fit them in anyway possibly. Really wish he would give Abdi a fair chance but no chance he will drop any of his favs. Edited July 30, 2017 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 33 minutes ago, coe_22 said: Jones was awful, bannan was awful. But both got 90 mins. Bet abdi was reyt chuffed exactly my posts last season I was were critical of those 2 in our middle of midfield . if abdi lee or hutch don't start next Saturday in place of them and we don't get a class centre half in I really think we could get hammered against preston . out tactics aint changing its a big worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillsbob Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Aren't Rangers about a month ahead of us pre-season due to that European tie? Stop with finding excuses......we are not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Can't help but feel the strolling around the pitch friendly trip to Portugal hamstrings us in relation to starting the season slowly. Be much better doing a Scottish tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, snufkin123 said: Looks like the same tactics as last season Why can't we be more positive as we were in Carlos's first season ? We need our best players playing in their best positions to get the best out of them. We need two true wingers playing on the wings and not cutting inside all the time. We need decent crosses from those wingers in to the box to support our proven goalscorers giving them the service they need to score. We need the midfield to be more forward-thinking to help the strikers and have a shot at goal when they can - Abdi is a perfect example of an attacking midfielder playing just behind the strikers (24 goals in 129 appearances for Watford - not a bad return !) We need the goals this season for goodness sake and we've got the proven goalscorers to score those goals, but if we don't play positive football and play to their strengths unfortunately we will not get them. Our strikers should be in or around the box and should not have to keep tracking back to gather the ball with their backs to the goal. We have talented players - we need them to be able to demonstrate that talent and that won't be achieved using negative tactics. Please go for it against Preston Carlos or you'll have many disgruntled fans on your back I'm afraid. Agreed, but none of these things will happen under this manager. We know how he wants to play and it won't change. In fact i would be surprised if he even changes the team one bit. I've never known a manager so stuck on one plan and one set of players. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence that it isn't working. So many players bought in and wasted, whilst Carlos stubbornly sticks to virtually the same plan he inherited from Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 To me it's really worrying that the style of play is so lacking in energy, pace, determination, width or even any discernible plan. There was no intelligent movement at all today. If that is a sign of things to come, the season will be over before Christmas. And what could be worse, is that the pigs might do the double over us. How embarrassing would that be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, snufkin123 said: Looks like the same tactics as last season Why can't we be more positive as we were in Carlos's first season ? We need our best players playing in their best positions to get the best out of them. We need two true wingers playing on the wings and not cutting inside all the time. We need decent crosses from those wingers in to the box to support our proven goalscorers giving them the service they need to score. We need the midfield to be more forward-thinking to help the strikers and have a shot at goal when they can - Abdi is a perfect example of an attacking midfielder playing just behind the strikers (24 goals in 129 appearances for Watford - not a bad return !) We need the goals this season for goodness sake and we've got the proven goalscorers to score those goals, but if we don't play positive football and play to their strengths unfortunately we will not get them. Our strikers should be in or around the box and should not have to keep tracking back to gather the ball with their backs to the goal. We have talented players - we need them to be able to demonstrate that talent and that won't be achieved using negative tactics. Please go for it against Preston Carlos or you'll have many disgruntled fans on your back I'm afraid. Still the same problem as last year. Abdi would be better in a 352 or 532 but we dont want that system. Pointless having some of our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kevan said: To me it's really worrying that the style of play is so lacking in energy, pace, determination, width or even any discernible plan. There was no intelligent movement at all today. If that is a sign of things to come, the season will be over before Christmas. And what could be worse, is that the pigs might do the double over us. How embarrassing would that be! Carlos has a decent squad and yes we do need a cb but not much more. Abdi is a great player to have in the middle but playing him deep will not get the best out of him, and you can see Carlos doing the latter. Players like bannan and Jones are awful now under Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosborough-owl Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, owls66 said: Some peoole can never be pleased. I've just left the ground I cannot believe how well we played. We drove at them and had them on their back heels for most of the game. I can honestly say that if we apply ourselves like that at Preston, they have no way of stopping us. Easily one of the best performances I've seen in a long while by Wednesday. We were just unlucky. You are joking right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, darra said: Release the KRAKEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crap 'un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 57 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Personally I left quite worried: if Carlos intends on a Jones / Bannan centre partnership that is disappointing. The defence looking rattled at the slightest pressure even more so. The same Jones Bannan partnership that won their previous four league games together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 Here's a few pics from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, Holmowl said: The same Jones Bannan partnership that won their previous four league games together? Yes. The same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, owls66 said: For all those moaning, did you go? When I was leaving the stadium people where literally gushing by how well we performed. It's just those on here who think they know it all. I know it's only one game so we can't get carried away but if that is evidence of things to come then we can certainly feel confident about our chances. For those slagging off Jones - he absolutely bossed the midfield today. His corners were dream like. I was nursing a big, fat f*ckin' hard-on every time he stepped up to take a corner they were that good. Like I said - we were unlucky. The better team lost today, simple as. Are you sniffing glue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 If after the first 10games we are still playing like that I may start sniffing glue with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 A manager who isn't quite up to it, tends to stay that way. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Anyone got a picture of the rangers fans? also someone has just walked into handsworth local with a half and half scarf, half rangers and half us, I feel sick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Holmowl said: The same Jones Bannan partnership that won their previous four league games together? 2 games. Newcastle and QPR. They were also the pairing for our worst performances of the season. Villa away, Reading at home, Burton at home, Wigan away... We wouldn't get near the play play offs with those playing together every week. Really weak, poor pairing. Edited July 30, 2017 by IstillhateSteveBould Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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