Quickly Kevin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Astounding logic that an experienced keeper with a great season in this division last year is crap. A great option for a season long deal and I'm sure our 2 current keepers will benefit from his experience. 37 isn't ancient for a keeper. If it was a midfielder it would be a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Wycombe fans rate him as the leagues best, a proper character and integral part of the team off the pitch. Could be just what we are missing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick70 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Wycombe fans rate him as the leagues best, a proper character and integral part of the team off the pitch. Could be just what we are missing Stop talking since on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, markg said: I get that. My point is that some stats don’t mean much without more detail. I’S be happy with him as a signing. My point is that that stat could relate to many shots from long distance. Similarly it could be point blank saves. Maybe the it passes you by Stockdale is experienced at organising his defence, never under estimate how important that is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Asio otus said: Stockdale is experienced at organising his defence, never under estimate how important that is. That’s true. Good point. Remember Bywater being the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Some people taking umbrage because we might be signing the top performing keeper from L1. You couldn’t make it up. I say you couldn’t make it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 15 hours ago, legendaryswan said: Sounds to me like were skint to be even considering a veteran keeper Yeah that Dino Zoff was rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 hours ago, modboy said: Dawson and Stockdale should be enough at this level if we improve other key areas. Would imagine BPFs wages were hefty. Seems a waste on using on a gk to me. Especially if Dawson's contract is as much as rumoured to be. It wont be 14 Million quid a Year,thats what it might cost us,if we put a keeper in who leaks goals.....How many 'second chances' do you give a keeper?....27 this Year,played most if not all of his career in the Championship.....(loan aside) over 70 appearances i believe,under 4 Different managers.... Why hasnt his game improved?....when he wasnt first choice?....what was happening with our GK coach to improve the area's that needed attention?...cos prior to his loan period,did anyone see any improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 hours ago, parajack said: DAWSON IS 27 THIS YEAR AND STARTED FOR US IN SEASON 2016....how much 'time' will he need to improve? Hasn't he improved at Exeter? Stockdale as #1 and Dawson as 2, eventually takes over if good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Hasn't he improved at Exeter? Stockdale as #1 and Dawson as 2, eventually takes over if good enough. Yeah, according to someone I know who watched a lot of Exeter last season and whose son is part of the coaching staff there, they were impressed with his shot-stopping from the start, but he came on leaps and bounds in terms of his confidence and his command of his area during his time there. They really, really rate him. But, y'know...CAPITAL LETTERS and baseless anger is more persuasive, innit? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Yeah that Dino Zoff was rubbish Not much difference there, ones got 100 plus caps, the other played one C international, Il have a few puffs on that when youve done. Wonder how many caps Zola would have won with Iorfa infront of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Harrysgame said: Hasn't he improved at Exeter? Stockdale as #1 and Dawson as 2, eventually takes over if good enough. How many MORE times...Exeter isnt S6 and he is an experienced Championship keeper playing is football in 2 Divisions LOWER.... He is an Academy product who has enjoyed long secure contracts at S6.....when KW was keeping him out what was he doing to improve his command of his area, kicking,and other area's of his game thought to be found wanting?.... If he has the confidence of DM given JW has been offered a further contract,why is DM not said we are going with CD? Why does this thread even exist? with speculation about the WW keeper? NO....lets see how CD does with Exeter again in this Division higher(if he is loaned back)....If IF he has a similar season, sell him on...Time to turn a page on players who have not brought us success 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Yeah, according to someone I know who watched a lot of Exeter last season and whose son is part of the coaching staff there, they were impressed with his shot-stopping from the start, but he came on leaps and bounds in terms of his confidence and his command of his area during his time there. They really, really rate him. But, y'know...CAPITAL LETTERS and baseless anger is more persuasive, innit? Baseless? not sure about the anger bit,but critique of Dawson (or any other player) is CONSTRUCTIVE in the main(few more capitals for you) Why? because the GK position is a variable we can control..ie We DONT have to take a gamble on CD....... If the GK falters and leaks goals,or is not able to ball play(or kick) consistently under a high press.. in DM favoured 'playing it out' style thats IT game over for automatics...END EX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Kin quality.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, parajack said: Baseless? not sure about the anger bit,but critique of Dawson (or any other player) is CONSTRUCTIVE in the main(few more capitals for you) Why? because the GK position is a variable we can control..ie We DONT have to take a gamble on CD....... If the GK falters and leaks goals,or is not able to ball play(or kick) consistently under a high press.. in DM favoured 'playing it out' style thats IT game over for automatics...END EX NONE of which...changes the FACT that Dawson (apparently) IMPROVED at Exeter, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Cameron Dawson will probably go onto have a decent career as a goalkeeper in the lower leagues, but I don't think it will be here. That's not a knock on him, but sometimes things just don't quite work out. Him and Joe came through at a time when we had not only a very good number 1, but one who was a) a dominant personality; b) a massive fan favourite; and c) was prone to get banished by certain managers. It all just added to the pressure on Cam and Joe and I don't think it's harsh to say that both struggled with that. In addition to that, one mistake and a certain section of fans were massively on their case and clamouring for "Westy" to come back in which he inevitably did. The problem is that one mistake from Cam next season and it would be like groundhog day here. He's had a great season at Exeter and I hope he gets a move to another club. As for Joe, well, he needs to decide whether he wants to be permanent bench warmer or try to establish himself as a number 1 somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: NONE of which...changes the FACT that Dawson (apparently) IMPROVED at Exeter, though. Says who?.....Was he expected to ball play at Exeter?.does Exeters manager ask his defence and midfield to play it out?...do Exeter play in front of 20,000 crowds?... Where are we putting our standard to decide against? clean sheets? MOM? because on those markers you would be 100% correct....IF CD wasnt a Championship keeper plying his trade 2 whole Divisions below...(absolute chasm in quality difference) But how relevent is that to being good enough to assist us in what we hope will be a promotion season? and being expected to do the above,at S6 using DM preferred systym.. Best answer to that will be to see if the manager agree's with you and make Dawson no1..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, parajack said: Says who?.....Was he expected to ball play at Exeter?.does Exeters manager ask his defence and midfield to play it out?...do Exeter play in front of 20,000 crowds?... Where are we putting our standard to decide against? clean sheets? MOM? because on those markers you would be 100% correct....IF CD wasnt a Championship keeper plying his trade 2 whole Divisions below...(absolute chasm in quality difference) But how relevent is that to being good enough to assist us in what we hope will be a promotion season? and being expected to do the above,at S6 using DM preferred systym.. Best answer to that will be to see if the manager agree's with you and make Dawson no1..... Says one of his coaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Stockdale was one of the better keepers in the league last year. Got Premier League, Championship and League One experience. Got pedigree at this level and above. If he comes in and Dawson gets in in front of him then it can only be a good thing. Wouldn't mind him for a season or two personally. Edited June 11, 2022 by CalmJimmers 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teddy Nickelarse Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Yeah, according to someone I know who watched a lot of Exeter last season and whose son is part of the coaching staff there, they were impressed with his shot-stopping from the start, but he came on leaps and bounds in terms of his confidence and his command of his area during his time there. They really, really rate him. But, y'know...CAPITAL LETTERS and baseless anger is more persuasive, innit? The word coming out of Exeter is very encouraging. The fact that their fans and staff rate him very highly and point to his improvement too is far more valid IMO than hustoric pre-loan form of 18 months ago in what was a pretty toxic environment. To judge him on the past rather than the now is bizarre. Had his form at Exeter followed him coming through the ranks of another club except Wednesday he'd be just the sort being touted as someone we should consider recruiting. The real sadness though is that if he starts next season as our number one he'll be judged far more critically than BFP was this season when he made his gaffes. 10 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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