Tommy Crawshaw Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, swfc-dan said: Bruce turned around mismanagement from Jos overnight. It just takes a boss who players want to play for, and who is tactically clued up which Monk is woeful at both. We have an ok enough squad, one that should be around midtable form. Change the manager now and at least give us a fighting chance to escape this mess. With Monk saturday's result proves that we'd be relegation contenders even without the -12! Look at Middlesbrough's upturn in form since they brought a proper manager in. Bruce would have got us in the play offs at least last season. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Despite what has been, on balance, a good start, only 3 points have been shaved off the deficit when you consider the gap to 21st. I would be very surprised if Derby and Forest stay down this end for long. Barnsley could very well pick up under their new manager. You then look at the likes of Brum and QPR, experienced championship outfits who should pick up enough results for mid table. Unless the points start coming in consistently, the list of teams who are catchable could become very thin, very quickly. Even Wycombe look to be building some confidence with their recent performances FFS. 4 points minimum required from the next 2 games, because November is horrendous, fixture wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 LUMP ON! MONSTA, MONSTA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 24/10/2020 at 21:19, @owlstalk said: WTF Jim?????!!!! I think he is spot on 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWUTO17 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Sticky Micky said: How are you so convinced? I'm optimistic. I see a lot of teams that are worse than ours and my judgement is solely based on who could worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I thought at the start of the week we needed to pick up at least 7 points. The best we can now get is 6 which let’s be honest, I think most of us think is unlikely? We are away so all hope is not lost after all our away record reads 6 points from 9. We tend to win at Rotherham and I think the only time we went to Wycombe we also won? Should he get the sack should we pick up four? He probably will get the benefit of the doubt? 2 points or less, his position is surely untenable? Personally I think this season is looking like one we’re we’ll win a few, lose a few and probably draw a lot? It won’t be enough to stave off relegation unfortunately and with Monk, you’re always going to get boring, attritional, non-progressive football. The interest from the supporters will eventually dwindle. In fact during these unprecedented times, Monk is probably the worst manager you could have. As well as terrible fare on the pitch, it’s not as if his personality catches the imagination of the fan base. DC has appointed 4 managers in his time here. He was dreadfully unlucky with Bruce but the one manager with personality he appointed is the one he had the most success with. Managers with personality are the ones who tend to have the most success here. Should the Chairman ever see sense and sack our current manager, he needs to the go out and get a manager with personality and charisma. A difficult task but a necessary one if he’s ever to fulfill his dream of getting us to the premier league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Eastern said: Communications. We’ve heard nothing from him. Normally Chairman would be more open. But the silence from DC has been noticeable. Or am I missing something? What are you comparing this with? What were the communications you were receiving prior to this silence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Sheff74 said: Despite what has been, on balance, a good start, only 3 points have been shaved off the deficit when you consider the gap to 21st. I would be very surprised if Derby and Forest stay down this end for long. Barnsley could very well pick up under their new manager. You then look at the likes of Brum and QPR, experienced championship outfits who should pick up enough results for mid table. Unless the points start coming in consistently, the list of teams who are catchable could become very thin, very quickly. Even Wycombe look to be building some confidence with their recent performances FFS. 4 points minimum required from the next 2 games, because November is horrendous, fixture wise. Spot on pal,if we lose to Rotherham there will be nearly 20 per cent off the season gone and we have made no ground up on staying up.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Under monk have been forced to accept the unacceptable and applaud mediocrity. The the last time we look anything like was a year ago, shortly after he joined. And I'm not sure he can take the credit for that. We will go down if he stays, the writing is on the wall. Edited October 28, 2020 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 24/10/2020 at 21:33, Sticky Micky said: Brian laws while not perfect was a great manager for this club Over achieved with the funds he had Plus he had the club at heart You could generally see that a loss hurt him as much as it hurt the fans Monk looks like he couldn't give a flying f##k Still getting paid in a job Gets sack he gets a nice payout Brian laws , with what he had is the best manager since relegation . We had no money at all, constantly selling decent players like bougherra for relative pittance , managing to get us a couple of top half finishes and the double over the pigs . compare that to the hash of a job the chairman / the chairman’s fellow half wit advisors / Carlos / jos etc etc have managed to achieve throwing millions at it, really does sum up why Sheffield Wednesday are the laughing stock of the football league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim said: I thought at the start of the week we needed to pick up at least 7 points. The best we can now get is 6 which let’s be honest, I think most of us think is unlikely? We are away so all hope is not lost after all our away record reads 6 points from 9. We tend to win at Rotherham and I think the only time we went to Wycombe we also won? Should he get the sack should we pick up four? He probably will get the benefit of the doubt? 2 points or less, his position is surely untenable? Personally I think this season is looking like one we’re we’ll win a few, lose a few and probably draw a lot? It won’t be enough to stave off relegation unfortunately and with Monk, you’re always going to get boring, attritional, non-progressive football. The interest from the supporters will eventually dwindle. In fact during these unprecedented times, Monk is probably the worst manager you could have. As well as terrible fare on the pitch, it’s not as if his personality catches the imagination of the fan base. DC has appointed 4 managers in his time here. He was dreadfully unlucky with Bruce but the one manager with personality he appointed is the one he had the most success with. Managers with personality are the ones who tend to have the most success here. Should the Chairman ever see sense and sack our current manager, he needs to the go out and get a manager with personality and charisma. A difficult task but a necessary one if he’s ever to fulfill his dream of getting us to the premier league? Personally I dont count losing in the playoffs and a league cup fourth round win against Arsenal reserves success, however I think the "success' we achieved was as much down to the wage bill rising by about 10million in successive years from a number of expensive new players coming in as much as it was down to the managers personality. I do agree in general regarding personality though but I dont think it applies just here. When I think of Most managers that have had success they seem to have personality - Klopp, Ranieri, Mourinho, even pep and Bielsa in a different way. Although maybe its just they stand out as I'm sure you could prbably name just as many that dont have personality too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 24/10/2020 at 21:04, Sticky Micky said: Use the 12 points punishment all you want But the form over the last year is good enough to send us down regardless Most people know if monk carries on he will send us down If we sack monk, does anyone trust DC to get a better replacement Our 'TOP SIGNINGS' are Cardiff and Wigan rejects Signed a bunch of crocks, one player who passed a medical with a broken leg ffs I'm almost certain we will be relegated Our manager doesn't care, our chairman doesn't care and with today's **** show the players probley don't care And the most heartbreaking thing is Us as fans have to sit there and watch our beloved club sinking like a massive turd Unfortunately I agree with the above mostly. I don't think that our manager doesn't care. He looks stressed and like he hasn't slept must of the time, but he isn't good enough, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Gap between us and 4th from bottom just isn’t closing enough. I really can’t see this team the way they are currently performing having enough to stay up. That performance against Luton was a disgrace considering the position we are in. We have to hope the injured players, Brown, Iorfa, Luongo and Lees return ASAP and stay fit. These last few games have proved without them we are a very poor side and we don’t have players good enough to step in for them. These next 2 games are massive. We need 6 points to close that gap before it really does start to get away from us. How big does the gap need to be before the players give up? To be fair they looked like they had already given up against Luton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chansiri is king Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Cheers Monk , and Dawson your a muppet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Monk will come good, let his team gel or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I blame chansiri. Monk shouldn't even be at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Convinced to certain in a few days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tommo_ said: Monk will come good, let his team gel or something. Monk is in it for what he can get from transfer fee's via his dodgy mates. He's also a FICK get who should be no where near a management position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On this form got to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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