bigrbuk Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, handworth52 said: just don't agree with anyone who puts money on us to go down its the equivalent of some smack head stealing off his mother or kid as I don't think a lot realise the seriousness the state the club would be in , just staying in league 1 would be an achievement , at all costs we must avoid going down ,it would be financial suicide ,we are appx 20 million over budget if the efl don't allow the ground sale , going down the club would be about 10-12 million a season worse off , im pretty sure chansiri would consider putting us into administration to clear all the wages what we cant afford now even with the extra 10-12 million what you get staying in the championship. it could be that we would be in boltons predicament and that's a very real threat. lets hope common sense happens and at worst we get something like 10 points and then can move on from this. You do realise betting on something doesn't mean you want it to happen right? Nor will it make it happen, It just makes you richer if it does. Leave emotion at the door if you're gonna gamble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 You can see it on Betfair most clearly. This is a very lightly traded market indeed. None of us has enough information to compute but let's say 5% chance of the league mandating relegation. 50pc chance of a big points deduction and 20pc chance that if that happens we get relegated. None of those assumptions are outrageous though all are open to debate. If you think they're broadly reasonable, 14s is a long price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Yeah, because that's Chansiri's modus operandi, isn't it? Yeah but the bookies aren’t going to risk keeping odds at 250-1 on the chance that our eccentric owner won’t sell players after we are hit with a heavy fine, relegation and the possibility that players will want to leave for free in May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Nah. As per bookies just react on punters, they know fizz all. If they knew something we'd be a lot shorter than 14s. Be around 3/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) They seem to have taken us from any betting lists related to relegation along with Leeds and West Brom Edit that is on Betfairs Sportsbook and not the Exchange Edited December 9, 2019 by Ronnie Starling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Nah. As per bookies just react on punters, they know fizz all. If they knew something we'd be a lot shorter than 14s. Be around 3/1. exactly. These markets are very fragile, the slightest movement (a few £10 bets) can see odds change significantly. It always happens when a new manager is imminent. Having said that, if you got 100/1 a few weeks ago then we’ll done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 With the EFL charge and the suggestions of up to a 21 points deduction, it is hardly a surprise that a few have taken a punt on us. Honestly, I believe that is the extent of it. I think people often give bookies far too much credit, particulary in the sense of them being ITK. Heck - remember the managerial odds a few months back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 57 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Yes, but we're less than halfway through the season. We're currently on track to achieve 74 points by the end of the season. Even the 53 points we'd have after a 21 points deduction would see us comfortably clear of relegation. Peterborough were relegated with 54 points in 2014 so I'd hardly call 53 points 'comfortably clear of relegation'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 EFL employees lumped on at higher odds ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, roaminowl said: Peterborough were relegated with 54 points in 2014 so I'd hardly call 53 points 'comfortably clear of relegation'. That was the highest ever points tally for a relegated team in Championship history. It's always possible this could be a record-breaking season though, I suppose. 53 points would have been enough to avoid relegation in nine of the last ten seasons, so I'll not be losing too much sleep over it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, WelshOwl74 said: If people are happy to make money off Wednesday been relegated ,crack on And that's another reason, filthy habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I’m still waiting for the Rowett appointment the bookies odds promised us a few months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Owls-Fan said: Maybe bookies are also cautious about a fire sale in January leaving us in the bottom 3 and the best players leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I got 66/1 at Unibet a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, bigrbuk said: You do realise betting on something doesn't mean you want it to happen right? Nor will it make it happen, It just makes you richer if it does. Leave emotion at the door if you're gonna gamble. I can see this been a divisive point ,but me personally would never bet against weds ,I would have to win at least 6 figures to even consider it. I cant stand leeds or pigs but I would bet on them if it meant me winning a few quid even though id hate them to have any success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Where did the 21 point deduction come from? Surely, 12 will be the maximum. EFL will be setting a dangerous and ridiculous precedent if they hike the points deduction up too high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, bigrbuk said: You do realise betting on something doesn't mean you want it to happen right? Nor will it make it happen, It just makes you richer if it does. Leave emotion at the door if you're gonna gamble. Betting should really about trying to win money (unless you are an addict or an occasional punter) - Something you think will happen and the odds are right. I’ve been lucky enough to back us in our last 2 games. But I won’t back us in every game cos we’re not Liverpool, we’re not even West Brom. But it doesn’t mean I don’t want us to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys_12th_Pint Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Used a £10 free bet at 100/1 when the news broke about the charge. Be absolutely delighted not to get anywhere near it coming in. Contrary to what some say the bet has no bearing on what happens! I was been offered £15 cash out last week but now says suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock1961 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Had a look to see if there's any value on finishing top six against getting relegated which would be all to do with how our case goes. Stand out wheels on the bus dropping off bet though, is weeds to finish outside the top six. 100-1. Worth a couple of quid if you count any of their fans as mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: I know loads of Wednesday fans who have had money on us to go down. That'll be the reason the odds are shortening. They're obviously not Wednesday fans then, if they put making a bit or money above the welfare of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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