Lord Snooty Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bulgaria said: Might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that bets are void if a points penalty is used to relegate a team. . I certainly hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 To finish bottom Skybet have suspended betting on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, fatbloke no1 said: Just had quick look at current relegation odds,we are 14/1, whereas Preston and forest who are near us are250/1 and 500/1.Probably them just been cautious Maybe they have a points deduction in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashton Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I've just checked sky bet and I can't see us on there at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrig Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 They also suspended betting on roughly 2,000 different managerial appointments though so I wouldn't read too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I had 20 quid on us to go down. A small thing to shout about when the points deduction comes. Nothing to shout about if we're relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon78 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: I’ve looked at the odds purely because the bookies usually get it right. On the basis that the would get a 12 point deduction, we would be described as relegation candidates. I take you didnt look at the odds when we was looking for a new manager. At one point lee bullen was 1/10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Had a fiver on us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Some strange feckers on here ..... If I put a fiver on us to reach the play offs I'm evidently being disloyal for betting against us winning the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, ka58 said: lets say you were given inside information that Wednesday were going to be given a 60 point deduction by efl and would be relegated. youre the only one who knows. wednesday are on ladbrokes at 50/1 to go down and you have a grand in the bank. you can make £50k - what do you do? Borrow another 100k.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I wouldnt be betting on us for promotion. but even with a points deduction we will stay up. And I am taking into account a 21 point one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Bookies don't know anything, other than who's betting on whom, that's where their "odds" come from. Bunch of people betting on this team or that, is how they set their "odds", don't look to them to clue you into which teams are going to place where, and so on. They rely on Fans, for their "odds", and then it's just a matter of quantitative & statistical analysis, what will they lose in a worst case scenario, what will they make in a best case scenario, what will they make in a split-scenario? I don't bet, and have nothing against people whom do. But if I did bet, it would never be against Wednesday. True, betting against Wednesday, does not affect the Club, but it is something akin to "treason", as Lord Snooty so aptly put it, because such a bet is another "data point", against Wednesday, in the eyes of Bookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Bulgaria said: Might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that bets are void if a points penalty is used to relegate a team. For the record I make a few quid on betting on us to lose in Dave Jones final weeks. Nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Simon78 said: I take you didnt look at the odds when we was looking for a new manager. At one point lee bullen was 1/10 Different type of betting market, I'm sure Hughton was odds on at some point. Doesn't take a great deal of money to change a massive price swing. There was a whole thread on here about Gary Rowett. Bookies wont get it right everytime, but if you look at the relegation market now, is it a fair reflection ? I suspect Barnsley / Luton / Wigan are justifiable favourites to go down, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: To finish bottom Skybet have suspended betting on us. I bet every Grunter and his Sow have forsaken this weeks Dole to lump on us dropping that's probably why ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 17 hours ago, fatbloke no1 said: Just had quick look at current relegation odds,we are 14/1, whereas Preston and forest who are near us are250/1 and 500/1.Probably them just been cautious bookmakers 'adjust' odds according to the betting. let me explain in more detail, IF someone lumps a huge amount on a singular bet like us going down then it will shorten the odds. IF a significant number of people put a much smaller amount on the same, then this also will shorten the odds. the bookmaker does this to reduce his pay out should the bet 'come in'. a number of pig fans putting a £2 or £5 wishful bet on would have influenced those odds too, in the hope some wednesday fans would pick up on it and start to worry or panic over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: To win money that's why people normally bet. or for a laugh IF you're a pigfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, WelshOwl74 said: Why anyone would wanna bet on us to get relegated is beyond me Well if we get docked a severe amount of points it’s becomes a factor to consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Bookmakers will be covering all angles. We are going well in the league but we also have a hearing with the EFL and an owner on a misconduct charge. Anything could happen yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Neon Nick said: Bookies don't know anything, other than who's betting on whom, that's where their "odds" come from. Bunch of people betting on this team or that, is how they set their "odds", don't look to them to clue you into which teams are going to place where, and so on. They rely on Fans, for their "odds", and then it's just a matter of quantitative & statistical analysis, what will they lose in a worst case scenario, what will they make in a best case scenario, what will they make in a split-scenario? I don't bet, and have nothing against people whom do. But if I did bet, it would never be against Wednesday. True, betting against Wednesday, does not affect the Club, but it is something akin to "treason", as Lord Snooty so aptly put it, because such a bet is another "data point", against Wednesday, in the eyes of Bookies. it'll be pig fans causing a stir, AND they've managed to get one by the looks of this lot. it'll have caught on t'sty and the bookies will have frozen the odd's to take stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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