jomaco Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 hours ago, prowl said: Bannan is a gobshite at times. Nothing wrong with giving people a b0ll0cking but he often does it after he's made the mistake. Westwood does the same. Leadership is a skill some people have, we are short of that type of player. It doesn't come from being a great player yourself, having a gob on you or being hard, it's instinctively knowing when someone needs a pat on the back, a quiet word or a serious talking to. A slagging off infront of 20,000 people rarely works. Borner is the nearest I can think of in our currrent team who might make a good captain, enthusiasic, supportive, a warrior and always got a smile on his face. Give him the rest of the season to settle in and he might be the man. Yeah seems always to be after the event, to pass blame I hope the players can support each other better by knowing when and what needs to be done as you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 This is the problem when you've a disjointed team in capability and set up. The likes of Bannan, would fit nicely into most championship teams, whilst the likes of Fox wouldn't - just my opinion. I think it's like when Carbone and Di Canio just passed it to each other; ignoring Booth who was in a better position - they would throw their arms in the air when Booth's second touch was a tackle. Fox, Palmer, Pelupessy, Nuihu etc., are tryers, but not on the same technical level as Bannan - he gets frustrated like we all do at their collective floundering. Whilst Bannan's not a world beater, he makes us tick and will be hard to replace. The problem is we've never complemented him by having a decent engine at the side of him to allow him to influence games more. I suppose he looks at the rest and wonders where that support is - Hutch is as good as it gets and he peaked in 2015. We have a big decision to make on Bannan in the next few weeks. If we don't get him signed up, he will have good offers from other Championship clubs in the new year and leave in May. Fox won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Castleford Owl said: Of the impression that Bannan genuinely thinks he's the best player on the pitch every time he steps on it. Berating his team mates is a regular occurrence, yet he never puts his hands up and acknowledges his own shortcomings. Bit controversial that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: You shouldn’t be watching football if you think Bannan is our problem, what a joke. I’ve played and watched plenty of football over the years and will continue to do so thanks very much. Bannan is certainly a tidy footballer, but I’m now coming round to the view that he is part of the problem in the middle of the park. I think we need more energy and drive than Bannan has to offer - he lacks physicality and can’t tackle. He sees a lot of the ball but doesn’t create enough for me, and his goal scoring record is poor. I’ve no doubt he’s one of our better players, but I don’t believe he has the qualities to get us out of the Championship and I’d be tempted to sell in the summer. If Bannan is as good as you think he is there should be no shortage of offers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Didn't see that but I did notice on about 68 minutes Bannan gesticulating to the bench for quite a few seconds. Didn't look the most positive body language. We do need better onfield leadership. If Kieran Lee were able to hold down a place he would do, but Borner the obvious choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 How many of you have complained about Loovens and Lees not getting stuck into people? Seems like the POV gets twisted to suit the order of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 The OP was really about Bannans attitude rather than his ability. His actions weren't going to make Fox a better player now or later. It was all about his own frustrations. I do though respect Bannans ability and think hes a key player for us still. To all the 'old school' nowt wrong wi a good bollockin gang, an old gafter told me praise in public, bolllock in private. Still great advice imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, slinger208b said: and the point of this topic... Really?...................looking at the Op i thought it was a Bannan bashing thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve Down South said: I’ve played and watched plenty of football over the years and will continue to do so thanks very much. Bannan is certainly a tidy footballer, but I’m now coming round to the view that he is part of the problem in the middle of the park. I think we need more energy and drive than Bannan has to offer - he lacks physicality and can’t tackle. He sees a lot of the ball but doesn’t create enough for me, and his goal scoring record is poor. I’ve no doubt he’s one of our better players, but I don’t believe he has the qualities to get us out of the Championship and I’d be tempted to sell in the summer. If Bannan is as good as you think he is there should be no shortage of offers. He lacks physicality and can’t tackle? Shock Jesus - we’ve known this for years and every single year we have said we need a big unit in their winning the scraps and feeding him as the playmaker Bannan makes things tick and provides opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Kameron said: The sooner Bannan f@cks off the better, another who continually fails to deliver. Finally somebody who sees what’s actually there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, TodwickOwl said: He lacks physicality and can’t tackle? Shock Jesus - we’ve known this for years and every single year we have said we need a big unit in their winning the scraps and feeding him as the playmaker Bannan makes things tick and provides opportunities We’ve tried feeding him as playmaker for the last few years and it’s so predictable - just hasn’t worked. He’s a good player for sure, but not as good as some on here believe, and by no means indispensable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The fact the Bannan is our most consistent performer speaks ferkin volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Kameron said: The sooner Bannan f@cks off the better, another who continually fails to deliver. Ye rite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: How many of you have complained about Loovens and Lees not getting stuck into people? Seems like the POV gets twisted to suit the order of the day Really? I've no idea what the answer to your question is but, being neither a cretin nor wholly unacquainted with the arts of man management, I would never support a public hanging out to dry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Crowley, even at his young age showed how a number 8 should play. He was brilliant last night. Bannan thinks he's a quarter back most of the time. OT: Fox deserved a bollocking for that god awful "attempt" at going with the runner and cutting out the cross. Odubajo, due to Reach's pass was also caught too far up the pitch meaning he never managed to get back to cover round the goalscorer Gimenez, although he could have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 30 seconds in Bazza really is crap .............................another player at the club that puts the ball on a tanner like ? Don't hurt your eyes looking there isn't one, some on here don't deserve a player like Barry Bannan in the team they supposedly support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Seen him do it a few times to Fox, same to Iorfa, probably done it to a few others that I haven't seen. Little man syndrome I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Andrew_Owl said: Seen him do it a few times to Fox, same to Iorfa, probably done it to a few others that I haven't seen. Little man syndrome I think. Or maybe he cares 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: Not denying Foxs fault in their goal but the way Bannan reacted as captain after was pathetic. Fox clearly was upset at the goal but Bannan was shouting at him and waving his arms around like a 12 year old. Taking a teammate down in front of the fans on the North especially when you are captain is not leadership. Bannan then made 2 errors far worse than Fox's but was lucky that they didn't capitalise. Brannan is fine when it's going well, but he does act like a small child at times. He has made error after error and TBH lucky he isn't being dropped. Yes give people a telling but do it quietly and dont embarrass yourself or the other player. Westwood has the same attitude at times. Being a captain is a bit more than being mouthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 So Tom Lees is too quiet. Bannan is too noisy. Think people look into the captaincy too much these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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