newbster Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Cvnts. Parachute riches for the few, punitive austerity in the form of ffp for the rest. Another rigged system that favours elitism. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 that and it being a london club..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Fake account If you want to believe it, he’s 4/1 to sign for Fulham so go and make some money... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I'd love to have signed him but if he had to choose between Fulham and us, even if we could match the wages he'd choose Fulham. Thats just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Money talks though , parachute payments shout the loudest . I was under the impression these payments were to help with current players wages not help to rebuild , it does seem unfair . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Not over until it's over, and plenty of good defenders out there. More important we don't overpay yet again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Still depressing that Chelsea bought him for the same amount we paid for JVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Parachute payments designed to keep about 25 teams in or around the premier league. Same teams up and little movement in teams at the bottom. A closed shop policy to protect supposed big clubs and if any slip up almost guarantee promotion with the uneven playing field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Money talks though , parachute payments shout the loudest . I was under the impression these payments were to help with current players wages not help to rebuild , it does seem unfair . I think it's about time we stopped calling them 'parachute payments' as I can see no parachute, and called them what the FL and FA know they are, and call them 'CHEAT AND SWINDLE THE REST OF THE ****ING DIVISION WHILST TURNING A BLIND EYE PAYMENTS'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Parachute payments designed to keep about 25 teams in or around the premier league. Same teams up and little movement in teams at the bottom. A closed shop policy to protect supposed big clubs and if any slip up almost guarantee promotion with the uneven playing field. To be fair though plenty of teams coming out of the Prem have steuggled even with these payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Whilst it will be disappointing if Hector goes elsewhere, this time last season we hadn't even been linked with him, and his eventual signing wasn't particularly heralded after he'd spent several seasons on loan at various clubs. He played well under Bruce, but there are other centre backs out there if Hector chooses to sign for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Fake account. I still think he will return. He's more or less made it clear he liked it here and wants to return. As long as we sort out the soft embargo and finances or finally sell some players, we'll get Hector back. If not, then it's going to be a blow. He'll be hard to replace because of how well he fitted in. Biggest keys this summer for me were keeping Westwood and Bannan, and bringing Hector back. I trust Bruce and believe we've finally got the right manager but the way it seems, he's hindered by past managers reckless spending. Edited July 6, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 We wouldn't be complaining if it was us. In reality it probably should have been us but we have wasted a very good opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Hector will be a wednesday player, before the start of the season. UTO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: To be fair though plenty of teams coming out of the Prem have steuggled even with these payments. the FL and FA should have insisted that championship promoted players when becoming premier league players and RIGHTFULLY having a salary increase, ALSO have a 'reversal' of the increase should they be relegated. as for players bought in freshly by the club once in 'the premier' (let's say a player is bought for £25m, and paid £60k p/w) then upon relegation that player and or the club decides he's 'too expensive' then a body set up by the FA and FL get the £90m parachute money to 'help' move that player, and others on, by subsiding wages (if necessary), and transfer fee's (to help enable a sale) whilst giving the relegated club a % of any monies left in lieu of the 'initial' £25m paid. it's not easy, but it's not rocket science, and would look much fairer than the 'shitonthe championship model' presently in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, 31Dec1966 said: I'd love to have signed him but if he had to choose between Fulham and us, even if we could match the wages he'd choose Fulham. Thats just the way it is. I'm assuming you mean for geographical reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Owls2k said: Still depressing that Chelsea bought him for the same amount we paid for JVA Chelsea got a bargain there then. Still think JVA will come good for us. Or is he the latest Fox for thos season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: Hector will be a wednesday player, before the start of the season. UTO Hope so... Regardless, I trust Bruce and believe we've finally got the right manager but the way it seems, he's hindered by past managers reckless spending, the chairman's stubbornness and FFP/P&S rules. It's just our luck, to finally get a rich owner, to have had clueless managers wasting his money amid poor advice, then when we finally get a proven decent manager he's got barely a penny to spend, due to the rules and past managers spending. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, dorian gray said: the FL and FA should have insisted that championship promoted players when becoming premier league players and RIGHTFULLY having a salary increase, ALSO have a 'reversal' of the increase should they be relegated. as for players bought in freshly by the club once in 'the premier' (let's say a player is bought for £25m, and paid £60k p/w) then upon relegation that player and or the club decides he's 'too expensive' then a body set up by the FA and FL get the £90m parachute money to 'help' move that player, and others on, by subsiding wages (if necessary), and transfer fee's (to help enable a sale) whilst giving the relegated club a % of any monies left in lieu of the 'initial' £25m paid. it's not easy, but it's not rocket science, and would look much fairer than the 'shitonthe championship model' presently in place. I agree but if you look at say Stoke, Swansea and West Brom. All 3 teams have dramatically reduced their wage bills and adapted to Championship level with more realistic signings and the sale of better players. Even Villa had to tighten things up for the last couple of years. If you come out of the Prem with a good team theres always a chance you will do well and go back up with or without parachute payments. I agree with your proposals though. They should be used as a parachute and not as a rocket to sign the hottest in form Championship striker for a lot of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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