striker Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I understand the logic of getting Wildsmith out on loan, and yes he should have gone out last season. My argument against buying a new keeper, as well as a new right back, is that, those are two of the positions where we have good options. Left back, centre back, centre and wide midfield, are bigger priorities Agree, but if we can get a free agent in for more or less the wages saved on Dawson and Wildsmith for a season wouldn't be a bad idea. Agree, it would be folly to pay a fee or negatively affect the available budget on a GK, given the considerable work needed elsewhere in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I understand the logic of getting Wildsmith out on loan, and yes he should have gone out last season. My argument against buying a new keeper, as well as a new right back, is that, those are two of the positions where we have good options. Left back, centre back, centre and wide midfield, are bigger priorities If one of them is to go then we'd need a third keeper, certainly not as much as we need a LB, CB etc but we'd certainly need another body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Wednesday legend Gary Taylor Fletcher has announced his retirement from playing at 38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 There is one local team who need a goalkeeper..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfctc1 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: There is one local team who need a goalkeeper..... Can’t go there he’s not got a dodgy past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Kevin Kielbasa from Lech Poznan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hitcat said: Kevin Kielbasa from Lech Poznan. Bore Off, from Owlstalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, Owls-Fan said: Bore Off, from Owlstalk I will if you will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I would be reyt miffed if we lose both Wildsmith and Dawson on permanent transfers but sign Andy Lonergan. I can understand selling one of the young keepers, I can understand selling one and loaning out the other (and then making Lonergan a smart signing), but going from a goalkeeper pool of Westwood, Dawson, Wildsmith to Westwood, Lonergan would feel like a decrease to quality available in that position and a drastic increase in average age for what doesn't free up enough resources to improve elsewhere on the pitch. Maybe it does, and the signing of that guy from Basel depends on the re-jigging cost-saving measures back there? Pure speculating on speculation, but I guess the point is that if at any point over the next two months we do something in the market, it has to make sense in relation to the squad as a whole. Fingers crossed things are a-changing at Wednesday and we can start doing that sorta stuff right again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MarkS43Owl said: Sounds like Bruce is interested in bringing another goalkeeper in (Andy Lonergan has been rumoured), thus allowing Dawson and Wildsmith to move on either temp or perm. Id much rather Wildsmith leave on loan with Dawson going permanently. I think the treatment of Wildsmith has been pretty poor to be honest- he played really well towards the back end of 17-18 and then Dawson was given a go when we were mathematically safe and then hasn't been seen since. I bloody well hope this is just a rumour. If we were to replace Dawson or Wildsmith with a 35 year old Lonergan that would be awful business. Wildsmith out on loan - remember, he's not being picked under 2 managers now probably for a reason (good shot stopper, people moan about Dawson not commanding his box, Wildsmith even worse with some high profile errors) but given regular football at League 1 or 2, he will come back better and stronger. 10 hours ago, Rogers said: He wasn't particularly singled out - comments were made when he made errors, which most players go through if they have a stinker. The main issue was that we had a better keeper being left to rot and that the rest of the defence were not as well organised under Dawson Dawson was absolutely singled out regardless of whether he conceded or not .. Owlstalk, Facebook and Twitter rife with comments lambasting the manager for picking him and the player for even the tiniest hiccup .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, Hack-Abusi said: I bloody well hope this is just a rumour. If we were to replace Dawson or Wildsmith with a 35 year old Lonergan that would be awful business. Wildsmith out on loan - remember, he's not being picked under 2 managers now probably for a reason (good shot stopper, people moan about Dawson not commanding his box, Wildsmith even worse with some high profile errors) but given regular football at League 1 or 2, he will come back better and stronger. Dawson was absolutely singled out regardless of whether he conceded or not .. Owlstalk, Facebook and Twitter rife with comments lambasting the manager for picking him and the player for even the tiniest hiccup .. It's not replacing them with Lonergan, he will be brought in as a number 3. The majority of teams have maybe 2-3 kepepers in the first team picture and another (usually experienced pro, Rob Green, Lee Grant) to provide back up but 99% of the time are used as a training cone. If one of the keepers goes out on loan then we would need another keeper for a year to cover for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hack-Abusi said: I bloody well hope this is just a rumour. If we were to replace Dawson or Wildsmith with a 35 year old Lonergan that would be awful business. Wildsmith out on loan - remember, he's not being picked under 2 managers now probably for a reason (good shot stopper, people moan about Dawson not commanding his box, Wildsmith even worse with some high profile errors) but given regular football at League 1 or 2, he will come back better and stronger. Dawson was absolutely singled out regardless of whether he conceded or not .. Owlstalk, Facebook and Twitter rife with comments lambasting the manager for picking him and the player for even the tiniest hiccup .. Totally agree with both these points.... Dawson got hammered week in week out no matter what he did. Westwood is the better keeper, I'll not dispute that but to say just KW made us more solid at the back is bōllócks. Hutch being in front of the back four did as much if not more for our solidity as proven in the last match against QPR when he wasn't there and we were left wide open down the middle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Owls-Fan said: Bore Off, from Owlstalk Leave him alone!! There were echoes of @Penguin in that rumour....for a second it was like the good ole days 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48503980 21 minutes ago, MarkS43Owl said: It's not replacing them with Lonergan, he will be brought in as a number 3. The majority of teams have maybe 2-3 kepepers in the first team picture and another (usually experienced pro, Rob Green, Lee Grant) to provide back up but 99% of the time are used as a training cone. If one of the keepers goes out on loan then we would need another keeper for a year to cover for them. My apologies, with you saying AND i thought you meant that both can leave for you although appreciate that 3 keepers are a must these days and the 3rd choice always seems to be a seasoned pro coming to the back end of his career or one willing to sit on the bench and not play AKA ROb Green / Stuart Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Drewswfc said: Totally agree with both these points.... Dawson got hammered week in week out no matter what he did. Westwood is the better keeper, I'll not dispute that but to say just KW made us more solid at the back is bōllócks. Hutch being in front of the back four did as much if not more for our solidity as proven in the last match against QPR when he wasn't there and we were left wide open down the middle. That is far too much sense there for Owlstalk !! It was a collective effort to shore us up at the back, if Dawson had been in goal from January it may not have been as good but it would still have been good !!! Dawson is a good young keeper with potential to play at a high level if managed properly, using Westwood for us and him !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Where the hell has this Lonergan link come from? Can’t see anything online at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Coventry CEO says he is led to believe Jordan WIllis has had an offer from someone, with Derby, Hull, Bristol City and us all linked. Coventry want to keep him also, but he's not responded to their offer... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ceo-gives-update-future-defender-2939305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Leeds linked with QPR duo Eberechi Eze and Luke Freeman. Wouldn't mind seeing either in a Wednesday shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Also Joe Lolley linked with Villa for £15M from Forest. Didn't even notice him through the season at all but he played every single game scoring 11 and assisting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Also Joe Lolley linked with Villa for £15M from Forest. Didn't even notice him through the season at all but he played every single game scoring 11 and assisting 11. Which makes me laugh (or cry!) when certain posters reckon we should be happy to accept £4-5m for Reach, who got 8 goals and 7 assists last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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