steveger Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) it's a football forum the idea is to discuss and debate, its great that people have different viewpoints and opinions, it wouldn't work and be batshit boring otherwise, there is obviously prombles at our little football club and guessing what they are caused by and discussing them is healthy. Edited October 24, 2018 by steveger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 We have decent players. Jos hasn't been able to bring his own in yet but we have enough to be not losing 3-0 at QPR. We need a settled defence. We need Westwood. Dawson makes errors too often when it comes to punching or palming the ball away. That last goal it looked like he dived as an after thought. We are creating chances but we are so soft at the back it's a joke. What can you say when we lose too easily with the quality of players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 16 hours ago, handworth52 said: our fans are the best in the league In the same way Westwood and Hutchinson are the best keeper and defensive midfielder in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Want to spout negativity and still appear better than everyone else..? Easy Just start a fan blaming thread on Owlstalk. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Edited October 25, 2018 by Beholder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Never sure why people blame the fans when we are on a bad run. You get the odd groan of frustration when things go wrong in a match but nothing 'toxic'. Said it a few times on here but football must be only industry in the world where people blame the customers when things go wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 09:44, adelphi1867 said: What do some fans do all day?, do they sit at the PC just waiting for the Club to make mistakes and then pounce gleefully on them?. Where are the same fans when the Club / team get it right?. Opinions opinions.... they’re like ars•holes, everybody’s got one and most of them stink. People do like a good moan and it’s usually because they care. I’m not sure they are moaning “gleefully “. Maybe you should emigrate to North Korea where nobody can express an opinion unless it shows full love and support for the regime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I moan about jos because I think he’s the wrong person for the job...that’s my personal opinion and when we play like we did against qpr it backs up my argument...sometimes I don’t understand why some fans think you have to blindly support them cos we can’t have better !!...I love Wednesday and it’s the lack of desire and energy from players I don’t get.... wether it’s jos or the players or chansiri it’s still wrong and they don’t deserve to be at the club... if you’re not allowed to say that on here...we deserve what we get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) I dont think there is a problem with the fanbase. Its just people being people. People whine and moan. That just happens. Fans arnt to blame for 3-0 loss to qpr. Half the team gave up, other half probably arnt up to it. Unfortunately we are going to have to take our medication and live with it for now. Lower your expectations. Anything positive is currently a plus. Edited October 25, 2018 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 09:46, HeathrowOwl said: I swear most of our fans would rather us lose every game just so that they could moan on here. Comedy at it's best! Although it is noticeable you can see most of the kop doing a sly punch in the air when we concede and then pretend to be p1 seed off when they get home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 16 hours ago, steveger said: it's a football forum the idea is to discuss and debate, its great that people have different viewpoints and opinions, it wouldn't work and be batshit boring otherwise, there is obviously prombles at our little football club and guessing what they are caused by and discussing them is healthy. Spot on Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 10:04, mkowl said: Could be argued that the same old fans perpetually look to smooth over the cracks that are evident to most of us. On and off the field there are issues. Is it too much to ask that we demand the best rather than putting up with average Those cracks have been there for decades. We, as a club, have never invested in the future always short term investment in the 1st team. That is the largest crack, that led the club to the doors of the Courts not so long ago, and ,yes, the current owner fell for the siren calls, that is the second crack, but he is not the first, but hopefully the last. He has learned from his first 3 years and ,hopefully, will not repeat the same mistakes again ang hope for a better result. We have a Training ground that is, at last, fit for purpose, a scouting system that doesn't rely on just the Managers connections, an Academy that is beginning to show results. The Commercial side needs attending to now, it's getting the foundations sorted that will lead to LASTING success. Long term planning and investment for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, adelphi1867 said: Those cracks have been there for decades. We, as a club, have never invested in the future always short term investment in the 1st team. That is the largest crack, that led the club to the doors of the Courts not so long ago, and ,yes, the current owner fell for the siren calls, that is the second crack, but he is not the first, but hopefully the last. He has learned from his first 3 years and ,hopefully, will not repeat the same mistakes again ang hope for a better result. We have a Training ground that is, at last, fit for purpose, a scouting system that doesn't rely on just the Managers connections, an Academy that is beginning to show results. The Commercial side needs attending to now, it's getting the foundations sorted that will lead to LASTING success. Long term planning and investment for the future. Next year we will millionaires Rodders! Been saying that all my Wednedayite days....transition season, building for next season, just one decent centre back etc needed....etc etc etc. First time I heard it, was from Mr Drake on this big foook off boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 02:02, matthefish2002 said: Aren't 99% of clubs fans the same as ours though? Yes we do have people how enjoy stirring and moaning over bad results but all clubs have fans like that. Also people need to remember out of players, coaches, journalists and fans its only the fans who have paid to be there. Bristol City fans seem relatively sane. And it's not so much a bipolar nature here, it's the overriding, poisonous negativity. See so much more unfettered moaning than untoward gushing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Bristol City fans seem relatively sane. And it's not so much a bipolar nature here, it's the overriding, poisonous negativity. See so much more unfettered moaning than untoward gushing here. Its worrying times though....Folk are more likely to go off on one. I'm not simply talking the way we are playing, but the impending doom of FFP etc, the bloody roll call of walkin' wounded... I go anyhow, and its not a problem being at Hillsborough, I keep me gob shut when they f.ook up like they did against 'Boro...But for the sake of f.ookery let me give vent on here...no bugger takes it seriously..If they do they are daft..whether its gushing praise or rampant criticism, the truth probably lies somewhere in between...Its up to yerself to find it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Maddogbob said: Lower your expectations. Anything positive is currently a plus. I don't expect anything at all from Sheffield Wednesday. And sadly that's exactly what they deliver 99% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: I don't expect anything at all from Sheffield Wednesday. And sadly that's exactly what they deliver 99% of the time Me too, others should temper expectations. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 09:46, HeathrowOwl said: I swear most of our fans would rather us lose every game just so that they could moan on here. I think there is some truth to this. But also we are a bit poo at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, asteener1867 said: Its worrying times though....Folk are more likely to go off on one. I'm not simply talking the way we are playing, but the impending doom of FFP etc, the bloody roll call of walkin' wounded... I go anyhow, and its not a problem being at Hillsborough, I keep me gob shut when they f.ook up like they did against 'Boro...But for the sake of f.ookery let me give vent on here...no bugger takes it seriously..If they do they are daft..whether its gushing praise or rampant criticism, the truth probably lies somewhere in between...Its up to yerself to find it.... Go for it Andy I swear some on here think OT is not just a few thousand of us saddos but 100% representational and is beamed into the Chairman and the players' computers and thus all negativity is morale sapping detrimental to the club going forward in fact DC could p*ss off if he reads it oh and the posters should be shot at dawn The truth is only Watson sends stuff in and tbh they prob think ....and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgybysea Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 We don't really have anything to worry about going by todays sports radio.Cam and Jos are angels compared to some of the rubbish being shipped out by some,Doris the World Cup winning keeper is crap,Pog should have spent more and brought more players in.Wednesday problems are nothing in comparison.Lets just crack on supporting our great club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Only Sheffield Wednesday could find finally find a very wealthy foreign owner and find themselves in a transfer embargo 3 years later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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