McRightSide Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Thought he recovered well after a poor first half in which he looked way out of his depth. Got caught out for the first goal and it seemed to shake his confidence. Needs to be braver on the ball and not just look for Thorniley / Dawson. When he was braver he looked much better for it...but it takes cahunas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 11 hours ago, vulva said: He’s a wing back playing fullback. He is doing ok in the role and our team is not suited to 3 at back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Adem Poric said: He got rinsed first half and his positioning in a flat back four is pretty poor. He's not been playing that role long though so willing to cut him some slack. Much better second half. Positioning is something that often comes with experience. Hopefully with good coaching it will get better quickly. He needs to not watch tapes of Palmer though, he just hasn't got any better. Liability today. He absolutely got rinsed for 25 minutes. He was up against the best player he has come up against, and he won’t face many better all season. Then, for 65 minutes, he coped. That’s superb adjustment from a kid. First half especially he was negative on the ball. Always turned back and inside. Second half he grew in confidence and made two fabulous incisive runs through their midfield. Love to see much more of that. Hugely promising player. Brilliant to see him learning so much and so quickly. Nowhere near the finished article but you can see him being a nailed-on first pick and worth an absolute bundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm an Essex Owl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 14 hours ago, vulva said: 1st goal was his fault. He allowed Ince to turn him far too easily. Far better player with the ball in front of him. Bit harsh saying the goal was his fault. Yes Ince did him but that was 5 yards inside their half and with us having at least 6 or 7 players behind the ball at that point and no immediate danger. Sure, that started off their move but it was a collective failure ultimately with them passing the ball straight through our midfield and then passing it straight between our centre backs who were all over the shop. Agree that he looks comfortable with the ball in front of him (and its definitely early days re whether he will cut it or not) but I liked the way he kept at it and Ince was very quiet second half (perhaps because they had spotted Palmer as a weaker link... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 He got totally done by Ince for their first goal but I thought he was superb after that. Just wish there was another decent left back at the club which would allow him to be rested every so often without weakening the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 That run and shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, I'm an Essex Owl said: Bit harsh saying the goal was his fault. Yes Ince did him but that was 5 yards inside their half and with us having at least 6 or 7 players behind the ball at that point and no immediate danger. Sure, that started off their move but it was a collective failure ultimately with them passing the ball straight through our midfield and then passing it straight between our centre backs who were all over the shop. Agree that he looks comfortable with the ball in front of him (and its definitely early days re whether he will cut it or not) but I liked the way he kept at it and Ince was very quiet second half (perhaps because they had spotted Palmer as a weaker link... ) Complete nonsense that he is to blame for Stoke's first goal. It is true that he pushed high to press Ince and got turned, but he stuck to him and tracked back. It started move that resulted with us conciding, but to say Penney is to blame for that goal is simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 14 hours ago, vulva said: 1st goal was his fault. He allowed Ince to turn him far too easily. Far better player with the ball in front of him. Yes it was and he will learn from that which is part and parcel of his football education. It didn't knock his confidence as he grew into the game culminating in an excellent second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finney on the Wing Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Half of the team were at fault for the first goal and the start in general. Having Afobe & Ince up against our two newer lads was always going to be a test for them. The key was stopping the excellent Woods receiving the ball and using it better ourselves, which we did for most of the second half. Part way through the first half Bully was jesturing to Bannan about giving Penney protection, which seemed to work. Both Penney and Thorniley are excellent prospects that need encouragement and help now and again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yesterday he seemed to have a massive lack of confidence, which is kind of understandable with him only having played a few competitive games. The amount of times he could have overlapped and caused a double up on their full back but didn’t was so frustrating. When he actually started doing it he caused them no end of problems. He just seemed to want to stand still and pass back to bannan all the time. It shows he can do it when he wants to but seems lacking in confidence. However on a more positive note I’ve never see a left back so effective at stopping crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S26 Owl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Happy enough with his defending to say hes new to it all. However to say he used to be a left winger and has a brill delivery/set pieces, he doesnt really show it! I wanna see more taking players on and putting a ball in the box. Too many times did he cut back in and give the ball to Bannan. That run in the 2nd half was rolling back to the glory days of JJ and good ol' ettiene esajas! Id also like to see him on a few free kicks (although bannan scoring that beauty yesterday might squash them ideas!!) Edited September 16, 2018 by S26 Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The lad had a bad 25 mins why are we dwelling on it. Fox hasn’t had a good game in 2 years. Looks a real threat going forward to me, well done Matt Penney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 He was frustrating me at times. He was stood still on the flank when he needed to make some runs. I also wanted to see him run at the defence more when he had the ball. Once the penny dropped (excuse the pun) good things started to happen. He's a really good prospect and comfortably our number 1 LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougoumont Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 hours ago, Stevelknievel said: I think Penney handled him well until Ince went off... oh hang on Ince didn’t go off, Penney just made it look like he did. As addedtime rightly said, Ince had him on toast early on. He got much better as the game went on and had the confidence to make a couple of good forward runs. The making of a good player is all about experience and he's learning fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, I'm an Essex Owl said: Bit harsh saying the goal was his fault. Yes Ince did him but that was 5 yards inside their half and with us having at least 6 or 7 players behind the ball at that point and no immediate danger. Sure, that started off their move but it was a collective failure ultimately with them passing the ball straight through our midfield and then passing it straight between our centre backs who were all over the shop. Agree that he looks comfortable with the ball in front of him (and its definitely early days re whether he will cut it or not) but I liked the way he kept at it and Ince was very quiet second half (perhaps because they had spotted Palmer as a weaker link... ) This....Tom Lees was in no mans land for both their goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCOWL Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I think the going forward part might be more to do with experience than confidence. Knowing when it stick and when to go will come with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Pardon my ignorance but how old is this player now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yesterday was his 4th/5th 1st team game, and yet there were 'Fans' who were calling him for mistakes he made?. You just cannot make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: Yesterday was his 4th/5th 1st team game, and yet there were 'Fans' who were calling him for mistakes he made?. You just cannot make it up. It's pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, adelphi1867 said: Yesterday was his 4th/5th 1st team game, and yet there were 'Fans' who were calling him for mistakes he made?. You just cannot make it up. I thought he was at fault for the first goal. That doesn’t mean he didn’t have a good game, looks a good prospect etc. How many games does a player have to have played, before mistakes are highlighted? Is it like Fight Club where no one can say anything until he gets to 100 games? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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