scram Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, torryowl said: i dont want him punished all i want is for him to honour the contract that he signed a year ago ......as for making it public, 20k of us have just spent a small fortune on season tickets on the strength of watching players like him you dont think fobbing us off with a lie that he's injured when we patently know he's not could possibly be a wrong route to take . No I don't think it would be the wrong route to take to keep things out of the public domain - fans know a fraction of what goes on inside football clubs - for a reason Putting this out there so publically might not only lose us one of the very top star matchwinners in this division - but even worse might deliver him to a direct rival As i said - the club have to do whats best for the club - and if thats to find a way back for FF then thats what should happen. If theres no way back then move him on for the best we can get I know the Owlstalk Shift is in full on reinvention mode right now with some fans - but without a doubt in my mind if FF played earlier we comfortably beat one of the favourites for promotion on their own patch Do we wanna make a point - or do we want promotion Usually the first course of action in a bad situation is to stop the situation from getting worse - and despite what anybody may say otherwise - we don't hold all the cards in this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Most important thing now is we don't let this turn into another Di Canio where we're the one's that get screwed. If we sell him it should only be for £12m+. Personally I think we should be after £15m, but £12m is probably more likely Edited August 13, 2016 by Southie_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, scram said: No I don't think it would be the wrong route to take to keep things out of the public domain - fans know a fraction of what goes on inside football clubs - for a reason Putting this out there so publically might not only lose us one of the very top star matchwinners in this division - but even worse might deliver him to a direct rival As i said - the club have to do whats best for the club - and if thats to find a way back for FF then thats what should happen. If theres no way back then move him on for the best we can get I know the Owlstalk Shift is in full on reinvention mode right now with some fans - but without a doubt in my mind if FF played earlier we comfortably beat one of the favourites for promotion on their own patch Do we wanna make a point - or do we want promotion Usually the first course of action in a bad situation is to stop the situation from getting worse - and despite what anybody may say otherwise - we don't hold all the cards in this deal Tbh carlos and the team have now outed him all over social media. They seem to have nailed there colours to the mast. I'm reading that he's not wanted by the team anymore, so in a way he's already got what he wanted. Time to move him on, make a profit and look for a replacement. If it costs us promotion so be it. Edited August 13, 2016 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid80 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Yes I love him. He can be the difference and it would be forgotten very quickly if we could put this to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nah - he is finished here..even if he apologises, we'll never know if his heart is really in it Once a statement of intent has been made to this level, its game over. As has been mentioned, he is better suited to Derby or Newcastle anyway where money is a more important aspect than it is here. If we get £12M- £15M I'd be pretty happy - that's 2/3 new players who can strengthen our squad. IMO the team needs a little bit more balance and this investment could give us what we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryBell Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 minute ago, TheEnchanter said: Yes I love him. He can be the difference and it would be forgotten very quickly if we could put this to bed. That all sounds very sexual, I hope you don't mind me saying. Are any other readers wanting to share their thoughts regarding expressing their affection for any of our players in a physical way? If so...for God's sake, don't post about it on here. It is absolutely revolting and we don't want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 44 minutes ago, modboy said: Reckon we would have won if he had played today too. Small margins in this league He he has scored 5 in the last 22 matches. Overrated and gready, in more ways than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianb1 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Whilst I wouldn't want him to be sold to a rival to aid their promotion push, just imagine if he's through on goal against Westwood at Hillsboro only to be inevitably broken in half by a hutch challenge and unable to play for a season how satisfying a lot of our fans would find that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I suspect that the club have been speaking to FF all week. The club moved quickly to resolve Westwood and Lees uncertainty. Sounds like it was all in vain given how strongly Carlos has reacted. I hope we stand firm and are able to refuse to sell to a championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 minute ago, VictoryBell said: That all sounds very sexual, I hope you don't mind me saying. Are any other readers wanting to share their thoughts regarding expressing their affection for any of our players in a physical way? If so...for God's sake, don't post about it on here. It is absolutely revolting and we don't want to know. Nuhiu...shaved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 57 minutes ago, rob chester said: FF F OFF Oi, no need for that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Nah - he is finished here..even if he apologises, we'll never know if his heart is really in it Once a statement of intent has been made to this level, its game over. As has been mentioned, he is better suited to Derby or Newcastle anyway where money is a more important aspect than it is here. If we get £12M- £15M I'd be pretty happy - that's 2/3 new players who can strengthen our squad. IMO the team needs a little bit more balance and this investment could give us what we need I think Derby want him, but can't afford him - so have created this situation to get him cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Grimbarian said: Only an idiot would say they don't want to see him playing for us again, but the situation obviously needs resolving, either sign a new contract and declare you're staying (and make a public apology), or move on. Why the hell does he need a new contract? It isn't FM where getting players to sign new contracts makes them happy again. I could accept him back but he needs to do a hell of a lot of apologising. He didn't want to play first game but we forced him, so why and how could today be different? He's really got that desperate to leave? Praise to the team for not letting it affect us, but I still think this could derail us if it isn't sorted before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Grimbarian said: He's not allowed to be a human being who makes a stupid rash immature decision? Hope you're never a parent and one of your kids does something dumb, you've never made a dumb decision in your life? I certainly know I have. It's not one rash, immature decision. CC said he came to him before the Villa game, bleating about 'his head not being right' and he ignored it, told him to play. Then he did it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 minute ago, fife_owl said: I think Derby want him, but can't afford him - so have created this situation to get him cheap! Fine - but we should insist on Hendrick and Ince in return. Quid pro Quo I'd be pretty happy with that swap... ...oh and plus the £7M too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambs Owl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I don't think there is any way back for him now. It's going to be so hard to forgive him for this.I wouldn't let another club have the benefit of getting him on the cheap - let him rot in the reserves. I'm so disappointed and disgusted. At the game today a handful of supporters started to sing his name but were quickly booed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 One only has to look at Saido Berahino as to what happens when you refuse a player a transfer. His form dips!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywended Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 For me it is time is up at Sheffield Wednesday. Lets see how hard ball Chansiri is. does he go down the he only cost 3 million transfer + wages and let him rot, or does he say i'll take your 12m+ and save on his wages .Either way we should look forward to exciting times. I bet FF will not be riding his bike around Sheffield without a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Tankisco Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 This whole sorry affair just goes to show that the whole showing of a heart with his fingers when he scores a goal is a big bunch of bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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