sexpistol Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Grobbelaar definitely would He was wacky like that Apart from when he played for us and just let shots in past his flappy hands He never played a competitive game for us. Unless you saw him in the reserves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, sexpistol said: He never played a competitive game for us. Unless you saw him in the reserves. I saw him in the reserves yeah Let's put it this way - it was very very easy to see why he didn't get a first team chance Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arootatat Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 He was poor that ball that he just kicked out of play then berated johnson what was that about and some of his passes just put the defence under pressure early days but he looks suspect to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yes but on this occasion I'm correct I was correct when I said the same about Pressman too Of course . I was just putting up a counter point, knowing I was wrong , so you can once more prove your correctness get Meggo and wilko running him through the woods!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1st was he has to take the blame for, not sure about the other 2, would be harsh to pin them on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Hornblower Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Ian said: Why couldn't he? They weren’t at the right trajectory for him to realistically be able to successfully claim or intercept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bassett Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Windlass should have stopped the cross for the first but a more athletic goalie would have taken two steps left before diving and would have stopped it. The second should have been pushed over the bar as it was straight at him. The third Dele-Bashiru lost the ball, then didn't track the runner then Iorfa was all over the place and Stockdale didn't have much chance. I'd say having watched them back he'd be disappointed with the first two. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 10 hours ago, bigthinrob said: My big concern is a repeat of last season where we win games, lose games draw games, and gradually the points we throw away gradually start to mount ( as yesterday). Also any momentum is lost. Everyone went into yesterday full of it. Proper Wednesday kit. Proper away kit. New shiny pitch. 27000 crowd all buzzing. Brilliant start. Then abject chaos where we eventually rescue a point, which our manager seems to think is a great result. The initial buzz is muted, questions are asked, it looks like more of the same from last year and we are immediately two points off the pace. Derby, who were a total unknown quantity this year, got a couple of our ‘castoffs’ and go into THEIR next game on fire. Their crowd will be up for it, they’ll sell extra tickets etc whereas we’ll be a bit cautious and the initial confidence will be a bit dented (especially with the manner of the performance). Some good points here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 For me more needs to get a handle on the whole defending in general. Stockdale is has a very good ground game ,but poor dealing with airiel threats .it's a bit of a recipe for disaster when our 3 CBS last season and so far this also look allover the place when dealing with the ball in the air.. The four of them must do better if we're going to go up automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlstastic Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just watched the highlights. The entire defence is a worry. Stockdale has the agility of a dead fish and looks 2 stone over weight. 3 towering centre backs who don't seem to be able to head a ball out or position themselves correctly. The 4 of them cost us 2 precious points IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Still think he needs a very urgent fitness regime Watching him try and dive to save shots is like watching my grandad trying to get out of his armchair last thing at night 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Bet he loves the keeper's kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Westwood anyone ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Asio otus said: So you can past judgement on players after one game.!! Fair dos, you must be one of the worlds top football scouts. I wont debate DM because you passed judgement on him ages ago. Who's passing judgement on players? They have poor games. Would like nothing better than DM to succeed as means we are doing well. However, it's is his job as a manager to fix areas of weakness, like the defence. How long do you give him to do this..18 months would seem long enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screen Door Slams Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I'd like Stockdale to be immediately put on a very serious fitness regime i was derided on here for suggesting he looked unfit when he signed..........................best stats in division or summat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I should learn not to trust an outpouring of negativity against a player before I’ve watched the extended highlights. Stockdale was less to blame for the goals than I’d expected. Some woeful defending though - especially the one where both defenders left the attacker for the other to deal with. Two things: I reckon we do need to bring in at least one if not two top leaders for the defence so we’ve got strength in depth. And I really fear for Dawson. Last year will have done him so much good. I fear that a prolonged period bench warming won’t do that confidence much good - and would increase pressure too much when he has his chance - getting us back to square one with him again. I would love the job to be shared by both of them until it’s clear which one is preferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorrallOwl17 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 He's been thrown under the bus by his back 3 for every goal, granted he's over weight and not the most agile, but that back 3 allowing free headers time after time from the 6 yard box and penalty spot hasn't helped. We sign 3 centre backs to address the issue last season of been light weight and weak from crosses and they played like they'd just met for the first team at 2:30pm and thrown together. That was a portsmouth side who had no intention of attacking for the first 45 minutes and only started attacking in the second half and scored 3 times, thank christ they were conservative in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, Screen Door Slams said: i was derided on here for suggesting he looked unfit when he signed..........................best stats in division or summat. At least you managed to get over it and put it behind you though Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, WorrallOwl17 said: He's been thrown under the bus by his back 3 for every goal, granted he's over weight and not the most agile, but that back 3 allowing free headers time after time from the 6 yard box and penalty spot hasn't helped. We sign 3 centre backs to address the issue last season of been light weight and weak from crosses and they played like they'd just met for the first team at 2:30pm and thrown together. That was a portsmouth side who had no intention of attacking for the first 45 minutes and only started attacking in the second half and scored 3 times, thank christ they were conservative in the first half. Pretty much. I still can't get over the fact that a back three consisting of three blokes 6ft plus (well over 6ft in the case of Heneghan and Iorfa) could be so utterly useless at defending crosses into the box. Stockdale looking like he's been teleported in from the early 1990s PL era doesn't help him, but still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Iorfas form isnt terminal for auto promotion but two dodgy keepers are. Stockdale isnt going to get more agile. Hes in decline, you cant coach turning back time. The alternative is Irongloves Dawson. We dont need 10 games to know this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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