Jack of Clubs Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Harsh to blame Stockdale for any goal. The first and third were crosses that were unopposed so not easy to defend and the second was just Iorfa was a little slow to react and get off the ground to challenge the scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I haven't seen the goals again since the match, but at the time I didn't think any of the goals were his fault. Just terrible defending. I thought he was poor at Wigan, but that was just a pre-season friendly. He's a good goalie. And experienced. And he knows how to waste time. When Wcombe played at Hillsboro late last season, he spent most of the last half hour pretending to have cramp. Unsporting but effective. Let's get behind him. He got in League one team of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: I haven't seen the goals again since the match, but at the time I didn't think any of the goals were his fault. Just terrible defending. I thought he was poor at Wigan, but that was just a pre-season friendly. He's a good goalie. And experienced. And he knows how to waste time. When Wcombe played at Hillsboro late last season, he spent most of the last half hour pretending to have cramp. Unsporting but effective. Let's get behind him. He got in League one team of the season. Seems you can't edit. Just watched the goals again and Stockdale would have expected his defenders to clear all those crosses. Have we still no-one who can head a ball away? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Judging the Manager not the players, common theme is DM and his inability to sort the defence, whichever players he picks. Wake me up when you can see this...or are you busy Happy Clapping DM' tactical masterclasses. So you can past judgement on players after one game.!! Fair dos, you must be one of the worlds top football scouts. I wont debate DM because you passed judgement on him ages ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Emerson Thome said: Has it though? We've conceded 23 goals in our last 23 games. (And scored 46). This is from the point our wingback system really started to bed in, by February, a month after the covid outbreak. I'm sure we could tighten up a little bit by focusing on defence, maybe get that down from 1.0 goals conceded per game to maybe 0.9 (Rotherham were best last year at 0.71, Wigan & MK Dons tied for second at 0.96). But at the expense of scoring more goals. But teams are always going to concede some goals. I honestly think it would be easier to swap out Iorfa than to change the whole system and start again. Don’t go using facts on here mate, the FIFA managers know better Would be interesting to compare the goals scored per game over the same period, does tightening up at the back cost them at the other end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 hours ago, kirksandallowl said: Dunno not a keeper or keeper coach, but you’ve kind of proved my point. Did Stockdale do anything different to any number of modern day keepers? That’s why I’m thinking we’re are maybe being a bit harsh. I wasnt looking to disprove it in any way, just interested in other views because you can guarantee that had Dawson not come for a cross on the edge of the 6 yard box then there'd be some on here in meltdown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Horatio Hornblower said: He couldn’t have come for any of the crosses. Why couldn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) No keeper in their right mind would have come for the 3rd Edited July 31, 2022 by BIG D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The same people saying he should have come for those crosses are the same ones who would be slagging him off if he came for the crosses and missed them It does make me laugh though that we sign an experienced GK and a bunch of experienced CBs and end up looking a complete chaotic mess at the back. Very Wednesday that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, SiJ said: The same people saying he should have come for those crosses are the same ones who would be slagging him off if he came for the crosses and missed them It does make me laugh though that we sign an experienced GK and a bunch of experienced CBs and end up looking a complete chaotic mess at the back. Very Wednesday that. Not sure that fear of making a hash of it is a good reason not to attempt to though. For me he arguably should have come for at least one. That said I don't think he had a mare but he wasnt great and we all know that Dawson would have been annihilated on here by many for a similar performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Not sure that fear of making a hash of it is a good reason not to attempt to though. For me he arguably should have come for at least one. That said I don't think he had a mare but he wasnt great and we all know that Dawson would have been annihilated on here by many for a similar performance Like Stockdale has you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, BIG D said: Like Stockdale has you mean? Yes exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 A 37 year old is goin to be slow..have slow reflexes etc...is this really the best we could get? BPF in goal yday we win that game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, The coach said: BPF in goal yday we win that game We praise him now, but he got a lot of stick beginning of last season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I'd like Stockdale to be immediately put on a very serious fitness regime 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, BIG D said: No keeper in their right mind would have come for the 3rd Shilton, Grobbelar, Schmeichel, Hodge to name but 4 off the top of my head would have. but then again they always say a decent keeper has to be a bit daft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Grobbelaar definitely would He was wacky like that Apart from when he played for us and just let shots in past his flappy hands Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'd like Stockdale to be immediately put on a very serious fitness regime I don’t agree with this. he is a fit footballer - he has been this shape for a long time and been a good goalkeeper. These comments wind me up as much as the ones that say Alex hunt needs to eat 55 steaks a day , snort steroids and live in a plant pot to be any good at football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, mcmigo said: I don’t agree with this. he is a fit footballer - he has been this shape for a long time and been a good goalkeeper. These comments wind me up as much as the ones that say Alex hunt needs to eat 55 steaks a day , snort steroids and live in a plant pot to be any good at football. Yes but on this occasion I'm correct I was correct when I said the same about Pressman too Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ian said: Shilton, Grobbelar, Schmeichel, Hodge to name but 4 off the top of my head would have. but then again they always say a decent keeper has to be a bit daft Yeah would have been one of Grobbelars many dropped b0ll0cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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