RevOwl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm absolutely amazed at how many of our players who up to last season were our best players are now only very average at best. No wonder we now look like anyone can triumph over us. Lees, Lee, Reach, Fernando, Hutchinson, Westwood, the list goes on. A complete rebuild is required and quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Every team has it's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everywhere & nowhere Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 They aren’t actually zero or average at best though. It doesn’t work like that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Football is getting depressing, lets go to the pub. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, RevOwl said: I'm absolutely amazed at how many of our players who up to last season were our best players are now only very average at best. No wonder we now look like anyone can triumph over us. Lees, Lee, Reach, Fernando, Hutchinson, Westwood, the list goes on. A complete rebuild is required and quick. Ooh good, a fresh angle on things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marble Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Lee & FF haven't been fully fit for as long as I can remember, so they haven't dropped off this season. Hutchinson & Westwood are just getting older...thats the danger of giving contracts to old fan favourites. I take your point on Reach & Lees...we are all entitled to expect a higher level of performance than we are getting from them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Key Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 hours ago, F. Spiksley said: Ooh good, a fresh angle on things. That'll teach him to fall asleep on a Rotherham Owls coach trip! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 hours ago, RevOwl said: I'm absolutely amazed at how many of our players who up to last season were our best players are now only very average at best. No wonder we now look like anyone can triumph over us. Lees, Lee, Reach, Fernando, Hutchinson, Westwood, the list goes on. A complete rebuild is required and quick. The bulk of the players you mention have been the main stay of our starting 11 since god was a lad. Time catches up with the best of players and there are no exceptions. A rebuild was needed after the Huddersfield debacle, sadly it's long over due now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I wouldn't worry about it. A good win on Friday and for the following week we will get thread after thread talking about how we can still make the top 2 and these players still have it in them etc etc. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, poite said: I wouldn't worry about it. A good win on Friday and for the following week we will get thread after thread talking about how we can still make the top 2 and these players still have it in them etc etc. That’s the thing - we could. I’m not a happy clapper but The top 2 are losing games “they should win”, it’s only a couple of weeks since we hammered Forest at theirs and they’re still in the mix. It’s a crazy division. Any team that can gat a few results together will take this league and that’s the frustrating thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Leeds and Brighton didn’t look like they could beat us.....or Forest and Middlesbrough And last nights result puts Boxing Day in to some sort of perspective.....stoke have been one of the best teams we’ve played each game for the last 2 seasons.....and Hutchinson is still out best centre back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 We can still make the play offs but we need a replacement for Fletcher. Our players aren't past it quite yet but they are all aging together. We do need fresh blood just to liven things up, we need to break up the old guard and bring in some youth. The summer will be our best chance to do this. I hope P & S doesn't stop us doing so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Most of those players are no longer regulars anyway, only Reach, who perhaps shouldn’t be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, RevOwl said: I'm absolutely amazed at how many of our players who up to last season were our best players are now only very average at best. No wonder we now look like anyone can triumph over us. Lees, Lee, Reach, Fernando, Hutchinson, Westwood, the list goes on. A complete rebuild is required and quick. You forgot Bannan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, F. Spiksley said: Ooh good, a fresh angle on things. Steve Davis has let himself go a bit. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 hours ago, bobowl said: Football is getting depressing, lets go to the pub. Count me in mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 hours ago, F. Spiksley said: Bullen regrets going to a bargain cosmetic surgeon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 They were never heroes. Fan favourites maybe but not heroes. They’ve not won anything at the club and their greatest achievement at Wednesday is a play off final we didn’t turn up in. And they’re not zeroes now. They’ve just got older or injured and dropped off a bit. It’s football, it happens to every player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Players and systems get found out; it's how the players/the manager adapts in response which is key. We seem to be slow to adapt. Harris for example hasn't just become an inferior player, it's just that teams have worked out how to nullify him. It's up to Harris and the coaching staff to respond to that. I've no doubt he will be a key outlet again this season. Another example is Hutchinson for a long while plugged a lot of gaps, opposition have cottoned on to this and work to isolate him or over commit him. Even back in the day we were vulnerable at the back on the counter if Carlton Palmer couldn't get back quick enough. Once Phil King got found out it was brutal. and of course, players just get old and or jaded.. Edited January 21, 2020 by pussface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I would be interested to see how many championship sides have more or less got the same bulk of their team from 2015/2016. I would guess not many, if any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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