Everywhere & nowhere

Be interesting to know how many people in this thread were at Elland Road last season. Monk is right to want young, dynamic players but we mostly need points. A proven point winner from the bench should be an obvious choice as things stand.

It’s best to just find the mind-bending, unpredictable, can’t quite believe what’s happened next, and what the absolute f**k catalogue of ridiculous nonsense as a never ending roller coaster of excitement. You’ll not be disappointed.

This is without a doubt the most obvious thing we should do

We’ve been watching the proof for quite some time.

Think I’m a 7 - pushing 8. In my mind the recent dross was a combination of a totally toxic dressing room and not enough management. I think we’re already a long way from that and looking forward to see a Wednesday team not controlled by individual player egos.

Red China, Johnnie Ray South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye" Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

Atdhe was significantly better than Connor last season and by some distance too

Can’t people just stop attaching to binary positions of monk in or out? Let him build a solution and judge him on his work rather than what he inherited.

Maybe there were other problems then like player attitude he had to deal with and if he’d had dedicated coaching staff we could have challenged top two??? Just a thought....

I understand that ‘he’s an appalling manager’ in your opinion. I understand that your opinion is not fact. I understand that there are many different contributory & mitigating circumstances that lead to a manager’s success and that not everything is a binary choice between good and bad. Can you understand that?

Don’t agree it’s that simple - do you think Bruce’s results would have been the same without Agnew or Clemence?

There’s a short window before the next season, a squad to build, formation, tactics and anything else you can think of - Monk needs some support pretty quickly I think if we’re going to have a chance and give him a chance.

Here’s one for the fans while we watch to see what unfolds..

Quite incredible that there are people making ‘time to move on’ and ‘good riddance’ comments. I have no idea how anyone who supports the club and has been watching what has happened over the last few years can not realise that the primary thing it is time for us to move on from is the overpaid petulant wasters who have shown nothing but contempt for the club and fans and in this season alone have cost us a great chance of being on a totally different path. All this guy has done is his best for the club and the shirt and if the rest did the same we might have got somewhere. Attitude, determination and professionalism is what we need - he’s one of only a few that have shown it. If people don’t value that then it’s hard to understand what they’re expecting or supporting.

What I struggle with is the issue of when deductions can be decided and to what extent the number of points depends on where you are in the season and how many points a club may have. The penalty should be what it is whenever and not change or be variable depending on whether it relegates a club or not.