thewookieisdown Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 It is abundantly clear that the chairman needs an awful lot of help. Advice that it's not about the quantum of spend but spending wisely doesn't really add a huge amount to the sum of human knowledge. It sits there with observations such as we need a 20 goal a season striker, we need a box-to-box midfielder, and we need to sign players who will remain fit as something that is at the same time both true and entirely fatuous. Mandaric can't help him much, but if he were to get Chansiri to see that what he really needs is good appointments in the key off-field jobs, then that would be more than half the battle. (Good appointments able to operate autonomously - but that goes without saying because a good appointee not able to do so will walk) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 To surmise: It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it... Perhaps someone can make a plaque of that and put it on Chansiri's desk or above his office door or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Also ... " ... because Sheffield Wednesday should be in the Premier League." ... sounds like a gentle reminder that MM's promotion windfall is long overdue 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, torres said: Beadle I have to hand it to you .... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougoumont Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, SiJ said: To surmise: It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it... Perhaps someone can make a plaque of that and put it on Chansiri's desk or above his office door or something. Send a copy to Jeremy as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, SiJ said: To surmise: It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it... Perhaps someone can make a plaque of that and put it on Chansiri's desk or above his office door or something. Don't mention plaques!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, torres said: Don't mention plaques!!! Good point. Did anyone ever get one of those? What was the offer again? Buy a 900 year season ticket and will give you a plaque or something? Great deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Couldn't he just pick up the phone? Chansiri: Hello? Mandaric: Hel-garble garble garble Wednesday garble garble Paul Merson garble garble... Chansiri: Ah, hello Milan! Still using the old underwater telephone, then? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 No mention of the current problems so must have been taken before the news? I'd like to have heard Milan's thoughts on it and FFP rules. Hopefully at least they do have a chat and work out whether its best to appeal or just accept our punishment which might be more lenient if we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Mr Chansiri The way to be successful is to ensure that you never pay over 350k for a player Regards Milan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 We have gone from when Milan left a club losing £5m a season in midtable with a first 11 made up of free agents, loans, and youth players to a club losing £20m a season in midtable with a team made up of players at the club when Milan was in charge, free agents, loans, kids and 1 or 2 players costing fees. (last match 7 FA, 1 YP, 1 L, 2 Fees) For me Dc it is very simple you need 3 new signing not on the playing staff in January. A qualified experienced director of football who has work in English football preferably in the championship who can manage the playing squad from first team down to the under 8's getting unused players sold or loaned out and helping to develop the promising youngsters into first team squad players A qualified marketing manager who has the ability to sell goods at a prices they will be bought, a quality that the customer expects and of a standard that will get repeat custom then finally and most important he need a Director of club operations a person who knows how to run a football club from top to bottom, someone who will make the match day experience the best they can and not treat the fans as a cash cow to milk but as a fan of the club. Get these 3 people correct and we move forward stronger, keeps things as they are and the silverware has been sold and it is when, not if, we end up in relegation trouble either this season or in the seasons to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: What Mandaric could teach Chansiri is how to get fans to believe hes got their best interests at heart whilst ultimately using the club to make himself money. The club was in free fall, its very existence at stake and the vultures were circling....No one else was stepping in to save us. Mandaric came in, steadied the ship and gave us one of the most exciting and memorable promotion stories in recent history. Once established in the championship he sold us to a guy who took us to touching distance of the premier league TWICE playing the type of football which hadnt been seen at hillsborough for nigh on 20 years. Ultimatley, Mandaric is a business man. He didnt spend much and he made a tidy sum afterwards...... but so what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, SiJ said: If only you could combine Milan's nous with Chansiri's wealth...then I think we are in the Prem. Can we combine Milan's nous with Milan's wealth please, at least we know Milan actually is loaded. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, room0035 said: We have gone from when Milan left a club losing £5m a season in midtable with a first 11 made up of free agents, loans, and youth players to a club losing £20m a season in midtable with a team made up of players at the club when Milan was in charge, free agents, loans, kids and 1 or 2 players costing fees. (last match 7 FA, 1 YP, 1 L, 2 Fees) For me Dc it is very simple you need 3 new signing not on the playing staff in January. A qualified experienced director of football who has work in English football preferably in the championship who can manage the playing squad from first team down to the under 8's getting unused players sold or loaned out and helping to develop the promising youngsters into first team squad players A qualified marketing manager who has the ability to sell goods at a prices they will be bought, a quality that the customer expects and of a standard that will get repeat custom then finally and most important he need a Director of club operations a person who knows how to run a football club from top to bottom, someone who will make the match day experience the best they can and not treat the fans as a cash cow to milk but as a fan of the club. Get these 3 people correct and we move forward stronger, keeps things as they are and the silverware has been sold and it is when, not if, we end up in relegation trouble either this season or in the seasons to come. If I were you, I'd get my application sent in right away. For all three posts! Sounds like you're qualified Only do it now while DC is still struggling to figure out why the past five years or so haven't gone according to plan I mean, he won't spend time trawling through Owlstalk (thankfully), so he'll have no idea the answer to all his problems lives right around the corner Then, when the two of you meet face to face for the interview, you could also offer advice on how to deal with the financial side of things Players salaries and agents fees. EFL and FFP. SAG, SYP and the City Council Maybe things haven't been straightened out with Mike Ashley yet, or that bloke in Middlesbrough who keeps leaving weird messages on his answer phone How about the academy and shortage of youngsters breaking through? That must weigh heavy too Then there's the ground itself - to sell up and build a new stadium someplace else? He's already bought it twice, where would the money come from? I'd be surprised if he's had one good night's kip in the last three years But never mind, eh? He gets you on board and hey presto! You'll get the club back in the Premier League and operating at a profit before you could say Walter Mitty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Matt_1 said: The Athletic have done an article on Chansiri. It looks like they have spoken to Milan. (affiliate link) https://theathletic.com/checkout?pc=raf40&plan_id=45&shared_by_name=Matthew&shared_by=2448207&source=referral I hope he doesn't ring him on his underwater phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 If DC had taken advice from Milan instead on Doyen and Paxo , we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 "Merson and Sherringham are now on the top of our list for January. Thank you Milan, as always, I appreciate your help" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: If DC had taken advice from Milan instead on Doyen and Paxo , we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. Unless it was Milan who put DC in contact with Doyen. Somebody did and I thought I saw this was one of the possibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: If DC had taken advice from Milan instead on Doyen and Paxo , we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. He was introduced to them by MM as part of the deal S36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s73owl Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, camffiti said: Over in 30 seconds?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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