billyblack Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 hours ago, The Night-Owl said: Those wanting the yesterday's men (the likes of Pulis or Ollie, etc) or the serial failures with no promotions (i.e. the likes of Rowett or Monk) have no ambition and got sunstroke or something. The ones calling for managers who are unsuitable replacements, short-sighted or a bad fit, will probably be the first ones calling for their heads when they don't work out. The cycle will continue with short term thinking or lack of forward thinking or a bad fit. Hope we show some more ambition and/or forward thinking, and get it right, whoever we get. However, with a lack of pre-season, etc whoever gets it, whatever they calibre will need given a chance and support, due to the timing. Why do we have to go for one out of work. Pick the one we want and then ask to speak to them. Of it costs DC then it costs him. Thats what he get compensation for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Rowett is hardly a serial failure, the only place he hasn't had success is at Stoke and that's a club with problems. So what success has he had then? Because I've missed the promotions on his CV and can only see a couple of play off failures at Burton and one at Derby. If it's mid table or outside the play offs or another play off failure we want, then he'll be a decent appointment but if it's promotion we want, then he's not the right man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, billyblack said: Why do we have to go for one out of work. Pick the one we want and then ask to speak to them. Of it costs DC then it costs him. Thats what he get compensation for Exactly, but it seems like we're mostly only in for out of work managers, apparently? I wouldn't mind someone in a job already that's on the rise, instead of on the decline or a multiple failure. For instance someone like Cook or Neil, might be an interesting appointment. There are some decent out of work managers on the list too, if we show some ambition. The likes of Hughton, Gio and Tedesco, appeal to me far more than settling for the likes of Pulis; Ollie, Rowett, Monk, Karanka, Zola and Coleman, etc to be honest. Yet, those seem out of reach or we're not ambitious enough or something to seemingly get the most suitable replacement, someone on the rise or someone high profile? I don't see why we can't attract someone decent or show some ambition by appointing someone like Hughton; Jokanović, Cook, Neil, Gio or Tedesco, or a high profile coach/assistant, for example. The Championship is an attractive League, ever growing in stature and some decent managers have been drawn to it. Edited August 2, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 40 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: Exactly, but it seems like we're mostly only in for out of work managers, apparently? I wouldn't mind someone in a job already that's on the rise, instead of on the decline or a multiple failure. For instance someone like Cook or Neil, might be an interesting appointment. There are some decent out of work managers on the list too, if we show some ambition. The likes of Hughton, Gio and Tedesco, appeal to me far more than settling for the likes of Pulis; Ollie, Rowett, Monk, Karanka, Zola and Coleman, etc to be honest. Yet, those seem out of reach or we're not ambitious enough or something to seemingly get the most suitable replacement, someone on the rise or someone high profile? I don't see why we can't attract someone decent or show some ambition by appointing someone like Hughton; Jokanović, Cook, Neil, Gio or Tedesco, or a high profile coach/assistant, for example. The Championship is an attractive League, ever growing in stature and some decent managers have been drawn to it. Yes agreed, we want a manager who will get us playing in an entertaining way. Most of those on the bookies list, will be too pragmatic in their approach. Sure, there will be plenty on here, who say, they don’t care as long as we are successful. Well why can’t we have both. We have a more talented group than United had, and Wilder got them promoted by playing entertaining football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Starting to feel very uneasy about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 What are the current odds at the top? (Sorry but betting sites are blocked from my work and I get no signal on my phone.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, The Night-Owl said: Exactly, but it seems like we're mostly only in for out of work managers, apparently? I wouldn't mind someone in a job already that's on the rise, instead of on the decline or a multiple failure. For instance someone like Cook or Neil, might be an interesting appointment. There are some decent out of work managers on the list too, if we show some ambition. The likes of Hughton, Gio and Tedesco, appeal to me far more than settling for the likes of Pulis; Ollie, Rowett, Monk, Karanka, Zola and Coleman, etc to be honest. Yet, those seem out of reach or we're not ambitious enough or something to seemingly get the most suitable replacement, someone on the rise or someone high profile? I don't see why we can't attract someone decent or show some ambition by appointing someone like Hughton; Jokanović, Cook, Neil, Gio or Tedesco, or a high profile coach/assistant, for example. The Championship is an attractive League, ever growing in stature and some decent managers have been drawn to it. Your list is totally unrealistic Hughton doesn’t want the job Jokanovic has a job paying millions in Saudi Cook and Neil already have jobs where there hands aren’t tied behind their backs with FFP constraints GVB will wait for a better European job in a top league Tedesco only managed 60+ games in the German top league and got sacked for underachieving at Schalke. Don’t see the attraction there either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: Your list is totally unrealistic Hughton doesn’t want the job Jokanovic has a job paying millions in Saudi Cook and Neil already have jobs where there hands aren’t tied behind their backs with FFP constraints GVB will wait for a better European job in a top league Tedesco only managed 60+ games in the German top league and got sacked for underachieving at Schalke. Don’t see the attraction there either I know they're unrealistic or unlikely but that's my point. Why merely settle for the usual suspects; unappealing has beens, failures or multiple sacked, job hoppers, etc? When, we could be smarter, more ambitious and forward thinking or something instead? Like, I said, there are decent managers out there out of work or in work, abroad or already over here. They may seem unlikely, however the Championship can attract decent managers and I'd rather us show some ambition. Instead of merely settling for the likes of Rowett; Monk, Coleman or Zola, etc who have achieved nothing or settling for a yesterday's man like Pulis, Pardew or Ollie, who've done little of note for years. Edited August 2, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: What are the current odds at the top? (Sorry but betting sites are blocked from my work and I get no signal on my phone.) here ya are mate as of now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. kin ell there may be a reason for that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. Let’s never mention him again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. Ssssh theres a good reason for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. I've cried enough already this week. Mainly whilstwanking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Nobody mentioned Nigel Adkins. For the same reason that nobody has mentioned you, or I as the next manager either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I dont want Adkins but find it strange he is not in the betting being out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Is Our City Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, yeadonowl said: Your list is totally unrealistic Hughton doesn’t want the job Jokanovic has a job paying millions in Saudi Cook and Neil already have jobs where there hands aren’t tied behind their backs with FFP constraints GVB will wait for a better European job in a top league Tedesco only managed 60+ games in the German top league and got sacked for underachieving at Schalke. Don’t see the attraction there either Tedesco took Schalke from a relegation threatened club to runners up and champions league in one season despite selling his top players and having to promote youth players all while playing good football, be surprised if we can entice him here, he's well out of our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleowl Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I cant believe chansiri has'nt got the new man lined up and did not want the team disrupted before the first match. If this is not the case what the hell is he doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 If we plan it really carefully, we can time our new manager to arrive when the transfer window has closed negating our need to get any new players in or old players out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, gurujuan said: We have a more talented group than United had, and Wilder got them promoted by playing entertaining football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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