theowlsman Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, torryowl said: how can he wheal and deal when he cant buy anyone ?...... We’ll be selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Just wait until Bruce sees Van Aken on the training pitch! He will be re registering bully to do a job at centre back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: Fair comment, but all it needs sometimes is a spark. I've seen players come out of nowhere under certain managers, but I've also seen big name players flop under some managers. Doesn't everyone deserve a chance? Clearly not with the "experts" on OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest domSWFC Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I do agree, and I also think the next appointment should be someone who can get the most out of our current squad, not necessarily the best overall record of success. Bruce, in my opinion couldn't do that. He's had success when spending money and building a team that's solid defensively, hard to beat and can win ugly. Here, I don't think he's got the resources to rebuild. Although I think he'd make out team more assured in defence, I don't think a defensive mantra will ever get the best out of this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Staying up was the priority. I feel more comfortable now. Those saying we wouldn’t have gone down are of more concern to me than Bruce Edited December 22, 2018 by theowlsman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, CLswfc said: Quite alarming really. Folk on here are either defending Bruce or trying to justify why he would a good manager. We are extremely desperate and that is very very worrying. Its only 12 months ago when folk were ridiculing the thought of Bruce coming here, now, its like some are begging for him to come. They change like the tide. Oh the absolute irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 My view is we take a gamble on an experienced British manager with four promotions from this league , or take a gamble on yet another out of work, unknown foreign manager with no experience of English football. The second option has failed us twice , so I'd rather go with option one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 My suggestion was Holloway by the way. But happy to get behind Bruce as everyone should, and will. Jos is the only manager I can remember whose departure I actively encouraged. That’s how bad he was. Please don’t tell me we would’ve been better sticking with Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Itchy said: I’m worried that we are just about se our club go into a nose dive of Sunderland or Portsmouth proportions. Money is tight Chansiri seems to going for a last stand solution if he appoints Bruce. His record with Villa was sambolic , even we beat them , despite the millions he spent. Some people will say look at his record and getting teams promoted to the premiership, but football is constantly evolving and it’s the managers that can evolve there teams way of playing are going to be the successful ones Bruce seems to of had him time and there no points of following the Villa mantra. Hopefully I’m wrong and Bruce has realised his mistakes and can evolve his methods and not rely on the open cheque book policy , because if he tries to follow the same old routine we’re f*oked I’m sure Bruce will have told Chansiri that he has reformed his way and bring success on a limited budget, or has he. This if true I’m sure will be Chansiri last stand and the consequences of failure can not be underestimated. Based on this quote mourinho, zidane, wenger are all finished. Just because Bruce had a rough time at Villa doesn’t make him a bad manager!! He’s a significant improvement on Jos...no one can even doubt that!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Hitcat said: Chansiri is going nowhere. Just a strop then was it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, domSWFC said: I do agree, and I also think the next appointment should be someone who can get the most out of our current squad, not necessarily the best overall record of success. Bruce, in my opinion couldn't do that. He's had success when spending money and building a team that's solid defensively, hard to beat and can win ugly. Here, I don't think he's got the resources to rebuild. Although I think he'd make out team more assured in defence, I don't think a defensive mantra will ever get the best out of this squad. If not Bruce, who else currently available would you suggest? The options are pretty narrow and we have the chance to hite a manager who had a genuine record of success at this level, Struggling to remember the last time we had this opportunity and actually took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: “Bruce record with Villa was shambolic” Would people be making this statement Last summer? In his first full season he got them to the playoff final. Teams who lose in the playoff final usually have a dip at the start of the next - ask Carlos. Plus Bruce has had a bad year personally. I think writing him off for the past 3 months, despite his previous 15+ years in management, is a little unfair Excellent post. Exactly how I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) And go on then, who should we have signed......... And why would they be better. Or should Mr C have stuck with Jos after being told Jos should go? Let’s have a second refendum. Edited December 22, 2018 by theowlsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: His time at Villa is being put down as a failure as they didnt go up. But many Villa fans never took to him due to his Birmingham City links. Also he did get Villa to play off final so not a complete disaster. Never going to get a perfect choice but think Bruce has more pluses then minuses. This is spot on. He really sorted Villa out, they were a real mess under Di Matteo and in his first full year had them in the play off final, they had a bad start this season but they weren’t able to sign players till late in the market, lost a couple key loan players in Snodgrass and Lewis Grabban and only replaced them late in the market with Bolasie and Abraham. Cant think of anyone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Bruce would be good even if we had aims for promotion This is what we’ve been crying out for years, a proven championship manager with contacts If DC pulls it off it’d be a fantastic appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Staying up was the priority. I feel more comfortable now. Those saying we wouldn’t have gone down are of more concern to me than Bruce the relief is tangible and hopefully it has spread to the team but it's still a proper job for someone agree though the ' I see no ships' gang on here are frightening in their acceptance of dross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mus Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 You can't second guess anything at the moment with the club it seems all over the place. I still feel there are some things fans are not being told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls77 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Finances are beyond our control..... Let’s be honest we would all moan if he appointed a nobody on the 1/4 (wages) of what Jokanovic and Bruce demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, torryowl said: how can he wheal and deal when he cant buy anyone ?...... Sell Reach, BB and FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, theowlsman said: We’ll be selling. doesn't mean that we'll be buying ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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