Itchy Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I’m worried that we are just about se our club go into a nose dive of Sunderland or Portsmouth proportions. Money is tight Chansiri seems to going for a last stand solution if he appoints Bruce. His record with Villa was sambolic , even we beat them , despite the millions he spent. Some people will say look at his record and getting teams promoted to the premiership, but football is constantly evolving and it’s the managers that can evolve there teams way of playing are going to be the successful ones Bruce seems to of had him time and there no points of following the Villa mantra. Hopefully I’m wrong and Bruce has realised his mistakes and can evolve his methods and not rely on the open cheque book policy , because if he tries to follow the same old routine we’re f*oked I’m sure Bruce will have told Chansiri that he has reformed his way and bring success on a limited budget, or has he. This if true I’m sure will be Chansiri last stand and the consequences of failure can not be underestimated. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls7 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I think we have to take a chance/gamble you look at Steve Bruce's record and hope he can do what he's done in the past I think it's worth the risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Any manager coming in must know our financial plight and what he has to work with . Don’t suppose the fact the owner is selling up ? , helps as a new owner may well have another manager in mind . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 It's not happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Some good points. I'd also like to add... How will our dutch contingent Joey Pelupessy and Joost Van Aken react to their countryman getting sacked. Joao and Matias improved quite dramatically when Carlos departed, as did Nuhiu. Edited December 22, 2018 by bigash_swfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Itchy said: I’m worried that we are just about se our club go into a nose dive of Sunderland or Portsmouth proportions. Money is tight Chansiri seems to going for a last stand solution if he appoints Bruce. His record with Villa was sambolic , even we beat them , despite the millions he spent. Some people will say look at his record and getting teams promoted to the premiership, but football is constantly evolving and it’s the managers that can evolve there teams way of playing are going to be the successful ones Bruce seems to of had him time and there no points of following the Villa mantra. Hopefully I’m wrong and Bruce has realised his mistakes and can evolve his methods and not rely on the open cheque book policy , because if he tries to follow the same old routine we’re f*oked I’m sure Bruce will have told Chansiri that he has reformed his way and bring success on a limited budget, or has he. This if true I’m sure will be Chansiri last stand and the consequences of failure can not be underestimated. it was 2016 that he got hull promoted and I cant think the game as changed that much in 2 years …...give him the money to buy players he'll get a team up around the play offs ...it's the give him the money though that could prove difficult . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, bigash_swfc said: Some good points. I'd also like to add... How will our dutch contingent Joey Pelupessy and Joost Van Aken react to their countryman getting sacked. Joao and Matias improved quite dramatically when Carlos departed, as did Nuhiu. Lets hope Pelupessy is sat next to him on the plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Itchy said: I’m worried that we are just about se our club go into a nose dive of Sunderland or Portsmouth proportions. Money is tight Chansiri seems to going for a last stand solution if he appoints Bruce. His record with Villa was sambolic , even we beat them , despite the millions he spent. Some people will say look at his record and getting teams promoted to the premiership, but football is constantly evolving and it’s the managers that can evolve there teams way of playing are going to be the successful ones Bruce seems to of had him time and there no points of following the Villa mantra. Hopefully I’m wrong and Bruce has realised his mistakes and can evolve his methods and not rely on the open cheque book policy , because if he tries to follow the same old routine we’re f*oked I’m sure Bruce will have told Chansiri that he has reformed his way and bring success on a limited budget, or has he. This if true I’m sure will be Chansiri last stand and the consequences of failure can not be underestimated. He's better than 99% of the suggestions made on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I thought this fred was going to be about organising a search and rescue party for Snooty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Any manager coming in must know our financial plight and what he has to work with . Don’t suppose the fact the owner is selling up ? , helps as a new owner may well have another manager in mind . Chansiri is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Come on, would people rather have Jos or Bruce? I still have my doubts that Bruce will come but I would take him everytime over Jos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I don’t believe Bruce has had access to loads of cash at every club he’s managed. The budgets he had initially at Birmingham and Hull in particular may not be a million miles away from the budget he may have here? I had a look at his transfermarkt profile last night and he’s worked with a lot of quality players during his career and one aspect that shone is that he’s managed to acquire quality loans from the big clubs and he’ll need that skill here? As I’ve said before if you want someone to get you promoted them there are’nt many better options around than Steve Bruce. If he’s given time by the Chairman and the fans I think he has every chance of getting us promoted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Owl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Itchy said: I’m worried that we are just about se our club go into a nose dive of Sunderland or Portsmouth proportions. Money is tight Chansiri seems to going for a last stand solution if he appoints Bruce. His record with Villa was sambolic , even we beat them , despite the millions he spent. Some people will say look at his record and getting teams promoted to the premiership, but football is constantly evolving and it’s the managers that can evolve there teams way of playing are going to be the successful ones Bruce seems to of had him time and there no points of following the Villa mantra. Hopefully I’m wrong and Bruce has realised his mistakes and can evolve his methods and not rely on the open cheque book policy , because if he tries to follow the same old routine we’re f*oked I’m sure Bruce will have told Chansiri that he has reformed his way and bring success on a limited budget, or has he. This if true I’m sure will be Chansiri last stand and the consequences of failure can not be underestimated. We beat Villa when he was in charge. Great but not the biggest deal. He beat us in the biggest game in our recent history when he was in charge also. He is not the messiah but he cleary does know how to win when it matters occasionally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Great Big Galaa said: I don’t believe Bruce has had access to loads of cash at every club he’s managed. The budgets he had initially at Birmingham and Hull in particular may not be a million miles away from the budget he may have here? I had a look at his transfermarkt profile last night and he’s worked with a lot of quality players during his career and one aspect that shone is that he’s managed to acquire quality loans from the big clubs and he’ll need that skill here? As I’ve said before if you want someone to get you promoted them there are’nt many better options around than Steve Bruce. If he’s given time by the Chairman and the fans I think he has every chance of getting us promoted? he spent millions at brum he's not going to get a penny to spend here …...i'm not saying he cant be successful signing loans and free transfers coz he's never had to do it and we wont know until he as to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldowl67 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Just about every managerial appointment is a risk with no guarantee of success. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, no matter how diligent the club is in it's recruitment process or the budget it gives to the new man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 “Bruce record with Villa was shambolic” Would people be making this statement Last summer? In his first full season he got them to the playoff final. Teams who lose in the playoff final usually have a dip at the start of the next - ask Carlos. Plus Bruce has had a bad year personally. I think writing him off for the past 3 months, despite his previous 15+ years in management, is a little unfair 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Toon Owl said: We beat Villa when he was in charge. Great but not the biggest deal. He beat us in the biggest game in our recent history when he was in charge also. He is not the messiah but he cleary does know how to win when it matters occasionally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, bigash_swfc said: Some good points. I'd also like to add... How will our dutch contingent Joey Pelupessy and Joost Van Aken react to their countryman getting sacked. Joao and Matias improved quite dramatically when Carlos departed, as did Nuhiu. How will two of our worst performing players react simply because the manager sacked was the same nationality? Really? You think Nuhiu is currently in form? Joao and Matias are doing OK at best. i think you and the OP worry too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 His time at Villa is being put down as a failure as they didnt go up. But many Villa fans never took to him due to his Birmingham City links. Also he did get Villa to play off final so not a complete disaster. Never going to get a perfect choice but think Bruce has more pluses then minuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Love how people are praying Bruce comes in and gets us up , despite us having no money or good players . lets just hope we don’t do a Portsmouth first 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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