coopswfc76 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Watson said: Don't you think Sterling has had enough chances? Never seems able to bring his club mentality to the International game. Which is a shame but I think he should be demoted to the squad. Yes if we needed points to qualify I'd drop him but we have nothing to lose by giving him one last chance and everything to gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It does seem a lot of us are divided on this. I don't see it as being black or white and would go somewhere in the middle. Trippier looks really good but is carrying a knock so I'd definitely leave him out, I'd probably also rest Alli a bit longer as I think he's got the odd moment of brilliance in him for the latter stages and there's no need to rush him back for this game. The only players on yellow cards are Walker & Loftus-Cheek, neither of whom are crucial to maintaining momentum IMO and I would drop both of those for this game meaning the likelihood is, barring an injury or sending off (latter unlikely in a dead rubber), we'll have a full squad to chose from going into the knockouts. I'd rest Young because he's the oldest member of the squad covering the most yards at wing back. Keeping Sterling in might be unpopular but leaves one more chance to find his Man City form and his potential long term replacements chomping at the bit. Doing all of this also gives the replacement/s particularly in defence/wingbacks the chance to show they can sure us up a bit. It's also worthwhile keeping momentum and a settled side so the men I'd replace from the last game would be Trippier, Walker, Young & Loftus-Cheek. I wouldn't even consider dropping Kane because he's riding on the crest of a wave and is our Captain, a popular one at that it seems. I'd try and win the game with; Pickford Jones Maguire Stones Alexander Arnold Lingard Henderson Rashford Rose Kane Sterling Trying not to risk anything and playing cautiously would go completely against what seems to have made this squad believe in themselves so win it and back ourselves to beat anyone without risking worsening existing injuries or having suspensions works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, OutspokenTom said: It does seem a lot of us are divided on this. I don't see it as being black or white and would go somewhere in the middle. Trippier looks really good but is carrying a knock so I'd definitely leave him out, I'd probably also rest Alli a bit longer as I think he's got the odd moment of brilliance in him for the latter stages and there's no need to rush him back for this game. The only players on yellow cards are Walker & Loftus-Cheek, neither of whom are crucial to maintaining momentum IMO and I would drop both of those for this game meaning the likelihood is, barring an injury or sending off (latter unlikely in a dead rubber), we'll have a full squad to chose from going into the knockouts. I'd rest Young because he's the oldest member of the squad covering the most yards at wing back. Keeping Sterling in might be unpopular but leaves one more chance to find his Man City form and his potential long term replacements chomping at the bit. Doing all of this also gives the replacement/s particularly in defence/wingbacks the chance to show they can sure us up a bit. It's also worthwhile keeping momentum and a settled side so the men I'd replace from the last game would be Trippier, Walker, Young & Loftus-Cheek. I wouldn't even consider dropping Kane because he's riding on the crest of a wave and is our Captain, a popular one at that it seems. I'd try and win the game with; Pickford Jones Maguire Stones Alexander Arnold Lingard Henderson Rashford Rose Kane Sterling Trying not to risk anything and playing cautiously would go completely against what seems to have made this squad believe in themselves so win it and back ourselves to beat anyone without risking worsening existing injuries or having suspensions works for me. Jones is a liability in my opinion. I would never start him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, gurru991 said: Jones is a liability in my opinion. I would never start him Its sad that he is one of England’s ‘best’ defenders. Never rated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Pickford Cahill Jones Maguire Alexander Arnold Henderson Dier Loftus Cheek Delph Vardy Rashford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Momentum? We want the easy ride to the final. The players confidence won't be shot knowing that they too want the easier route to the final - they know it'll be a one off game. We need to finish second - I think our confidence would be sky high going into those games, rather than against the likes of Brazil early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Momentum? We want the easy ride to the final. The players confidence won't be shot knowing that they too want the easier route to the final - they know it'll be a one off game. We need to finish second - I think our confidence would be sky high going into those games, rather than against the likes of Brazil early. I honestly don't think Brazil will make it to the quarters, Mexico to muller em 1 - 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Muller's gone home. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrodge Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Go for the win. I know it won't be Belgiums strongest team but if we beat them we can beat any of the others mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Go for the win and top the group. Acknowledge we may get Brazil in the quarters but we should go with a mindset to win the games that are front of us. Brazil are beatable! I also think that the Spain/Croatia semi final is a much tougher proposition than the first half of the draw with France, Argentina or Portugal. Argentina are poor overall, Portugal are definitely beatable and I don't fancy France. Croatia are the stand out team so far and they are playing the best technical football. Spain are the elite team that I think may come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You have to play every game to win & players at this level will give it every thing they have. Southgate will definitely rest players but the ones that chosen will be looking to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 This may be of interest to someone. A friend of mine has 2 tickets in a corporate box for the England v Belgium game Thur 28th June 2018. She paid £600 each including flights but didn't realise when she bought them months ago that it was going to be the same day as her wedding! If you are interested she is looking for someone to take her place. It's at Birmingham Registry Office at 4pm. The grooms name is David - He's 5'9", about 12 stone, head full of hair and own teeth. Has his own income and is really good at DIY. PM Sharon for details. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Plotting the way to the final when we've won 2 knock out games in about 20 years! Just go for the win - always go for the win. What happens after that happens Come on England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 18 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: Yes if we needed points to qualify I'd drop him but we have nothing to lose by giving him one last chance and everything to gain. Fair point, Rotherham Owls are so knowledgeable about football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I want Engerluund to win today as it will make a lot of my "friends" on here happy, so that will make me happy.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbster Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Quick question...could playing to lose be classed as match fixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Momentum? We want the easy ride to the final. The players confidence won't be shot knowing that they too want the easier route to the final - they know it'll be a one off game. We need to finish second - I think our confidence would be sky high going into those games, rather than against the likes of Brazil early. Can't predict the quality of the ride. Winning is all that matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, newbster said: Quick question...could playing to lose be classed as match fixing Could playing to win be classed as match fixing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Don’t get the point in resting so many players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbster Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Watson said: Could playing to win be classed as match fixing? No.because its a lot harder to win...winning isnt guaranteed but to lose a few mistakes or misplaced passes much easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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