Bluesteel Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The figures quoted in the press are rarely right. But it's starting to look a foregone conclusion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Maybe this situation is entirely different, and rather than being two individuals who don't get on, it's a case of one player's behaviour turning the majority of the squad against him? We don't know, but what we do know is that Forestieri played the best football of his career under Carlos' management, so those who are trying to suggest that a hypothetical new manager would come in and suddenly everything would be sorted are misguided, in my opinion. True, but you'd think things would have to be pretty bad to ship out our most effective player over the last 2 years for the sake of team harmony. I just wonder how effective CC's man management is when you consider the number of players that seem to have been left out to dry for prolonged periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dagmeister said: Whilst I agree with much of that. He needs to go IMO in this window and £12m+ is a massive mark-up. It would also help towards paying CC off and giving a new man some funds which again I hope happens. If it secures the removal of CC then I'm in. Done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts Owl Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hate to say this because on his day he is a class above.However, his head and heart is not in the team anymore and for this we should accept offers in the region of 12m. I would also consider Wolves resolve on Rhodes. Winnal deserves far more games and is proven at this level. The money should then be used wisely. Mulgrew, Dean and then Hanley on loan, we don't need Jota, that would just give us a new headache come matchday selection. Not going to be a popular move but IMO the only other option is to keep everybody but bring in a new Manager who can get the best out of them playing in their rightful positions, playing with the confidence, freedom and flair from 2 seasons ago. I preferred it when Carlos didn't know English football and gave the players the freedom to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Probably because you've been hammering people all year for wanting to part with after his antics. But, surely now even you can see it's the right time. "hammering" is a slight exaggeration. I stood up for him last season a bit when we got a thread every time he had a bad game calling him this and that. Though the reactions and the accusations were way over the top. 2 minutes ago, steelowl said: mine genuine question not trying to be funny you dont want him sold but what would change if we kept him ? Where have I said I don't want him sold?!?! It was a response to JV's threat that he will buy a season ticket next to me if we do sell him for 11 million. For what it is worth I think it is time for him to move on and indicated that about 3 pages ago. Flip me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Fulham might end up selling one or two, like Cairney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barr Grylls Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I would sell for 12mil. Then spend the lot on a CB and a LB as we are getting rinsed down the left side as yesterday showed AGAIN! Fox isn't a footballer and Pudil cant play CB as Mason bullying him and out jumping him yesterday for the goal proves this. A good CB would of easily won that header and put mason on his arse while doing it. If Venancio turns out to be a good in then LB and LW but down the left needs addressing sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Bluesteel said: Fulham might end up selling one or two, like Cairney Or perhaps we might have a player coming the other way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Or perhaps we might have a player coming the other way... This would be a very realistic possibility IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, SiJ said: "hammering" is a slight exaggeration. I stood up for him last season a bit when we got a thread every time he had a bad game calling him this and that. Though the reactions and the accusations were way over the top. Where have I said I don't want him sold?!?! It was a response to JV's threat that he will buy a season ticket next to me if we do sell him for 11 million. For what it is worth I think it is time for him to move on and indicated that about 3 pages ago. Flip me. fair dos obviously missed that interaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Swap deal for Cairney I would bite their hand off Edited August 27, 2017 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 He's definitely going, I've just seen his Hillsborough football table on eBay 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassdrinker Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: Either way, genuine promotion candidates don't let their most talented player leave to a rival. Nail on head. Can't say I like his attitude but he has a history of having a productive first season. Don't want Fulham to have the benefit of that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: True, but you'd think things would have to be pretty bad to ship out our most effective player over the last 2 years for the sake of team harmony. I just wonder how effective CC's man management is when you consider the number of players that seem to have been left out to dry for prolonged periods. Yeah, it would. I don't know, but I suspect his refusal to play last season, the bike protest against Fletcher's wages, and telling Carlos he found it difficult to play in his best position on the left - which seemingly prompted Hooper's comments about being willing to play as a winger to get a game - may suggest that he's become a negative influence. Who knows what's really going on at the training ground, though? Other than McGugan, I can't think of any other players who've been left out for similar issues under Carlos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Swap deal for Cairney I would bite their hand off I think fulham would want a another 5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 £12m!!, flippinghell ****** their hands off. We have only to play them once more this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, steelowl said: fair dos obviously missed that interaction It's dues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: It's dues. it's the yorkshire way I speak Edited August 27, 2017 by steelowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, steelowl said: it's the yorkshire way I speak Just in the matter of correctness mi'owd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, SiJ said: Or perhaps we might have a player coming the other way... I'd be surprised at that. Who do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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