areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, BRUCE LEE said: Once the balls in the box you can throw a coin for who wins it Storey needs to just wipe the ball and player out, with no risks taken on letting him turn and run at you NML was a poor sub mind, his skill set is running in behind and pushing teams back, they were already parked on the edge of the final third Bringing him on made us unnecessarily vulnerable down that side Cost us dearly I know what you mean, but with the headstart he had over Roberts, it looked like Palmer should have easily beaten him to the ball if he'd shown the same desire and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofit Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Stop looking for scapegoats and pouring over the ‘what ifs’. We can analyse & disect every game and find a moments action that serves to evidence the point we want to make about great, indifferent or abject performances. No one did a Jordan Rhodes last night. We got ourselves into the promotion frame after a first hall to the season that didn’t promise that. Someone has to lose & unfortunately it turned out to be us. This isn’t about Liam Palmer or any one individual at all and making it so won’t change the outcome. UTO! Edited May 10, 2022 by Hoofit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Weshallovercome said: I've watched it back a few times, Roberts starts off running from outside the box and is at full pelt by the time Liam notices him. Maybe he could have anticipated it better, but for me the main damage was done by firstly NML not busting a gut to get back, Storey not getting close enough to his man to block the cross......and it was a bloody good goal, So yeah, all three of them messed up then, really. Three opportunities to prevent the goal, and not one of them taken. It's quite a fitting end to the season in a way: just one more late goal and one more defensive horror show to add to the showreel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Clubs Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 If not for Bannan and Gregory then Palmer would be my player of the season. Shout out too for Byers who’s had a solid second half of the season. We always seem to need a scapegoat. You win as a team and lose as a team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Palmer's had a great season. I've not been his biggest fan in previous seasons (not that I whinge about him either). But he's been solid defensively at this level and has even offered something going forward. So, fair play to him, imho. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I agree on both Mendez-Laing and Storey, but do you not think Palmer should have beaten Roberts to the ball? When Portsmouth scored Palmer did a scamper onto the goal line and left a tap in for his man.....it didn't matter then but in big games mistakes cost big time. He's been a stalwart but he can't seem to concentrate... it's the hard truth imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Palmer definitely should have beaten the scorer to the ball, but that was only part of the clusterfcuk of defending. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Ok you blame palmer I'll blame brain dead Hutchinson who cost us the playoffs Fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Yes, Palmer could and should have done better, but if NML and Storey had done their jobs there would have been no cross to defend. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBilde'sTea Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah but you have to forget all that and just jump on the bandwagon That's the rules Apparently Palmer is also behind the hacking of MI5, the poisoning in Salisbury, and Chicago winning the Oscar for best film. How does he sleep at night? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, mark77 said: How does Dunkley feel? A centre back is injured, and he doesn't use the centre back on the bench? He brings on a makeshift defender who constantly gets beat at the far post (a key skill for a supposed full back!). Do you think Dunkley would have beat the rapid approaching striker to that ball? Not a chance Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, BRUCE LEE said: Once the balls in the box you can throw a coin for who wins it Storey needs to just wipe the ball and player out, with no risks taken on letting him turn and run at you NML was a poor sub mind, his skill set is running in behind and pushing teams back, they were already parked on the edge of the final third Bringing him on made us unnecessarily vulnerable down that side Cost us dearly I don’t think NML was a poor sub. We were 1-0 down when he came on and needed a goal. Just typical he comes on and then within minutes we go and score a goal. At 1-1 we were better off sticking with Hunt. But that’s football. At that moment in the game bringing on NML to spark some creativity was absolutely the right call. And if Byers had slipped him in at 1-0 we could be here planning our trips to Wembley. Honestly the play offs is a complete lottery and decided on fine margins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo89 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 NML didn't track back Storey didn't put a foot in and backed off. If he's that knackered then just bring him down. Yes they'll get a free kick in the last few minutes but at least we'd get a chance to regroup to defend the innevitible cross. There's 2 people at fault right there before Palmer even comes into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 13 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I agree on both Mendez-Laing and Storey, but do you not think Palmer should have beaten Roberts to the ball? Possibly though he did make a good run and finished it well. Palmer is always chosen as the scapegoat when anything goes wrong. I haven't seen any let's blame Hutchinson thread for defeat after his poor mistake for Sunderland's goal in first leg. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, bradowl said: Possibly though he did make a good run and finished it well. Palmer is always chosen as the scapegoat when anything goes wrong. I haven't seen any let's blame Hutchinson thread for defeat after his poor mistake for Sunderland's goal in first leg. Really? There were loads of comments on here discussing Hutchinson's mistake in the first leg. Not many blaming him alone for the defeat, but then I've not seen that re: Palmer, either. It's not scapegoating to point out that Palmer really should have done better for their goal; it's just an honest opinion. Exactly the same as saying that Mendez-Laing should have done better, as should Storey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 14 hours ago, mark77 said: But he gets found out when it really matters (against decent opposition). Pretty sure he was a disaster in the 5-0 game back in December. The whole bloody team was found out not just palmer, crying out loud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Personally I don't rate him, but thought he had a good game in the first leg, and Sunderland were extremely worried about him in the second. Tactical genius that is Moore dropped him and they couldn't believe their luck. Moore should be under scrutiny not Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I'd have said it was more NML for not tracking back just jogged.. Palmer gives everything always has 1 of our own...I'd also say chances created was our downfall...WAWAWAW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Biggest crime of the night was Byers not playing in NML. But players make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanamo Wednesday Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 How many managers has Palmer played under? How many of these managers have renewed his contract? They must all be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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