Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Tewkesbury said: Nope, as he had a man running in on the inside so couldn't commit. See the pic. We were better v Oxford because Gregory went off and we started to move their defence back second half. Yes, we improved after Gregory went off at half-time, we made the breakthrough after wing went off. We didn't sign him as a defensive midfielder his pass completion, key passes and overall rating is worse than Bannan's this season, surprising given you consider Bannan is trying to be the main man and play the hollywood passes. Dunkley should cover the immediate danger, which is the shot on goal. If the goal scorer plays the pass then someone else is responsible for not covering the midfield run. Yes, there are also clear errors from Johnson and the keeper but Dunkley doesn't do enough. You are in a very small minority if you think Dunkley and Wing have been performing well but I guess everyone else are sheep and you know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: Yes, we improved after Gregory went off at half-time, we made the breakthrough after wing went off. We didn't sign him as a defensive midfielder his pass completion, key passes and overall rating is worse than Bannan's this season, surprising given you consider Bannan is trying to be the main man and play the hollywood passes. Dunkley should cover the immediate danger, which is the shot on goal. If the goal scorer plays the pass then someone else is responsible for not covering the midfield run. Yes, there are also clear errors from Johnson and the keeper but Dunkley doesn't do enough. You are in a very small minority if you think Dunkley and Wing have been performing well but I guess everyone else are sheep and you know best. If Dunkley slides in, the striker can stop. 1 on 1. He can play a 2 yard ball to the left. 1 on 1. Dunkley's blocking half of the goal and the cross. The only place he can score is the near post. 99/100 this doesn't go in. If we go back to the start of this conversation, it was about players thinking they were too good for this league. Wing isn't playing well. He's out of position and his comfort zone. But he's still putting in a disciplined shift every game. He's taking one for the team. Dunkley's not going to win the ballon d'or but he's not the one losing us games either. They're both putting in hard shifts. Everyone's complaining about lack of workrate, these two are putting it in and getting slated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: If Dunkley slides in, the striker can stop. 1 on 1. He can play a 2 yard ball to the left. 1 on 1. Dunkley's blocking half of the goal and the cross. The only place he can score is the near post. 99/100 this doesn't go in. If we go back to the start of this conversation, it was about players thinking they were too good for this league. Wing isn't playing well. He's out of position and his comfort zone. But he's still putting in a disciplined shift every game. He's taking one for the team. Dunkley's not going to win the ballon d'or but he's not the one losing us games either. They're both putting in hard shifts. Everyone's complaining about lack of workrate, these two are putting it in and getting slated for it. Not sure everyone is complaining about a lack of work-rate. They are getting slated because they are under-performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: Not sure everyone is complaining about a lack of work-rate. They are getting slated because they are under-performing. In relation to who? Defensively, they're doing as well as the rest of the team. We have the joint second best defence with only 9 conceded. Dunkley also didn't play v Plymouth. The attacking players aren't exactly setting the world on fire, are they? So who's outperforming them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Tewkesbury said: In relation to who? Defensively, they're doing as well as the rest of the team. We have the joint second best defence with only 9 conceded. Dunkley also didn't play v Plymouth. The attacking players aren't exactly setting the world on fire, are they? So who's outperforming them? Wing has been our worst midfielder. He wasn't signed as a defensive midfielder so if that is what you are judging him on perhaps it is the managers fault. Our defensive record is good but again, the manager is asking the team to play from the back, Dunkley can't. Both dropped today, lets hope we perform better. Not sure about the line-up though, will depend on the formation. Fact is the manager has failed to get anything to work effectively since the first 4 games and is now chopping and changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock1961 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Lee far better CM than Barry Big balls Bannan and he'll likely prove it today. Carlos shoe horned Bannan into a winger for good reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Wing has been our worst midfielder. He wasn't signed as a defensive midfielder so if that is what you are judging him on perhaps it is the managers fault. Our defensive record is good but again, the manager is asking the team to play from the back, Dunkley can't. Both dropped today, lets hope we perform better. Not sure about the line-up though, will depend on the formation. Fact is the manager has failed to get anything to work effectively since the first 4 games and is now chopping and changing. We'll see, Wing doesn't need to play there with Hutch in the side. If Bannan can reign it in, we'll be OK. We didn't sign him as a DM, the ones we did were all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Fantastic player. Better than all of our current central midfielders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: He was class for them last season and is currently shining in midfield in our division for a team above us in the table and who have scored double the amount of goals as us this season. Would he get into our current side? Without a doubt in my opinion so why wouldn't fans want him over inferior players? Because he was on too much money,had been here too long,was more injury prone,and represented a group of players who we had achieved nothing with.... Yes he has been a good servant to the Club,but it was time for him to move to a new challenge,when released we were(and could have remained) a Championship Club,KL had to drop a division to get a gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I didn't like how he tried to get Iorfa sent off today for running into him. Threw his arms up at the referee at least 4 times trying to get him to pull another yellow out for a nothing foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourteenerOwl Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Kieron Lee is the perfect example of players who get better in fans eyes when they don’t play for us anymore. Read this forum for when Lee was playing for us under Monk. He was apparently past it and not the same player. I always thought he was still one of our better CMs even under Monk when he played. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 It was great to see Kieran Lee back on the pitch today Ive missed that little shimmy and drop of the shoulder But he was behind Bannan, Paterson and Gregory in terms of performance today 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofit Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: But he was behind Bannan, Paterson and Gregory in terms of performance today Better than Bannan, give over. Bannan spent his time primarily playing deep & pointing at his teammates. Lee was positive & purposeful as ever, supporting attacks & opening up space for his team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, McRightSide said: It was great to see Kieran Lee back on the pitch today Ive missed that little shimmy and drop of the shoulder But he was behind Bannan, Paterson and Gregory in terms of performance today Dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, McRightSide said: It was great to see Kieran Lee back on the pitch today Ive missed that little shimmy and drop of the shoulder But he was behind Bannan, Paterson and Gregory in terms of performance today I thought Lee was one of their better players. Doyle should have played Lee through on goal after Lee had robbed the ball off Bannan, and a couple of times Lee played good crosses but the movement of the Bolton strikers was poor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullOwlPhil Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Worse than Bannan and Gregory is debatable but how anyone can say he was worse than Paterson is beyond me. Got to be a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Have him back tomorrow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlprince Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, CourteenerOwl said: Kieron Lee is the perfect example of players who get better in fans eyes when they don’t play for us anymore. Read this forum for when Lee was playing for us under Monk. He was apparently past it and not the same player. I always thought he was still one of our better CMs even under Monk when he played. If Lee was still with us and playing every week I guarantee People would be saying he’s crap and the problem etc He’d be getting exactly the same stick bannan gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Mike Hunt said: Have him back tomorrow He was the best player on the pitch to be fair. He made a bit of a bàlls up of a chance he should have scored but apart from that looked really good. More than good enough for this league. Glad he’s got a club who appreciate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 It was funny when Bannan beat him in the air. What with Lee being 6 feet tall and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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