Kopparberg Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I think I’ve supported (or at least ‘bought into’ supporting all managers - despite some reservations (that they probably will fail) until it became apparent they were doing terribly. We’ve been through some tough times as a fan base, and are up against it yet again - so can we maybe see how it goes with Pulis ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post matthefish2002 Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 Think I fall into 4th group and think Wednesday's problems go deeper then who is manager. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Kopparberg said: Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I think I’ve supported (or at least ‘bought into’ supporting all managers - despite some reservations (that they probably will fail) until it became apparent they were doing terribly. We’ve been through some tough times as a fan base, and are up against it yet again - so can we maybe see how it goes with Pulis ? I am actually not in any of those groups. Pulis isn't the manager I wanted, but also know he will do whats needed. I don't count staying up as succeeding. I gave monk a second chance this season, but definitely thought it was the right time to go. Pulis for now has my full support, I want him to succeed. But don't think he can do much more than he is now, with out a couple of signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 (Not saying Pulis is the saviour of the club - Just that division won’t get us anywhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I think I’ve supported (or at least ‘bought into’ supporting all managers - despite some reservations (that they probably will fail) until it became apparent they were doing terribly. We’ve been through some tough times as a fan base, and are up against it yet again - so can we maybe see how it goes with Pulis ? 1 minute ago, matthefish2002 said: Think I fall into 4th group and think Wednesday's problems go deeper then who is manager. Mods - rename this thread The Spanish Inquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Monk has gone. Pulis will keep us up. Grunters are going down. We’ll play and beat themcunts next year. Enjoy! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I think I’ve supported (or at least ‘bought into’ supporting all managers - despite some reservations (that they probably will fail) until it became apparent they were doing terribly. We’ve been through some tough times as a fan base, and are up against it yet again - so can we maybe see how it goes with Pulis ? They’re called brigades, please use the correct terminology 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Ok, I've taken it upon myself to round up the group still defending Monk...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 (We know the Chairman is mostly to blame... more people know that now than before) but re: the manager, seeing ‘PULIS OUT’ and other such stuff before the guy even gets the keys to his flat is just sad, a bit distasteful and overall just puts out a negative vibe before we’ve even started trying to move on. We just don’t want to be that sort of fan base do we ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 What about people who think the Manager is largely irrelevant at the minute and the issue is DC ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: What about people who think the Manager is largely irrelevant at the minute and the issue is DC ? This. I suppose I fit into all three categories in some way... - I defend Monk against those who pin too much of our current plight on him, yes. - I'm certainly backing Pulis to succeed in so much as I really, really bloody hope he does. Whether or not he will remains to be seen, of course. - I can't say Pulis was my first thought of who I wanted as our manager, but he's here and he certainly brings a wealth of experience and know-how with him. He might turn out to be just what we need. But to return to the post to which I'm replying, no manager is set up for success at Wednesday, are they? The chairman has run the club up a blind alley with no idea how to get us back on track. We're just flailing around in the dark. If Pulis - or any other manager for that matter - succeeds here, it will be in spite of the structures above him rather than because of them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, No Uniform said: I am actually not in any of those groups. Pulis isn't the manager I wanted, but also know he will do whats needed. I don't count staying up as succeeding. I gave monk a second chance this season, but definitely thought it was the right time to go. Pulis for now has my full support, I want him to succeed. But don't think he can do much more than he is now, with out a couple of signings. Nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Pulis was not my preferred choice although I did want a no nonsense manager. I like what I have heard so far from him. I believe he will get us out of this Monk made mess eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Think I fall into 4th group and think Wednesday's problems go deeper then who is manager. And me . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I fall into all 3 groups. And I agree. He's here now. Whatever reservations I have about his style of football he's hugely experienced. And given time he might just be the right man to steady the boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I thought this thread was going to be about the latest Covid restrictions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 People who think Monk was the problem and to blame for everything should maybe explain the results of the last three games the lack of shots on target lack of goals lack of points zero wins playing players out of position bizarre substitutions saying players shouldn’t be on the pitch as they’re injured then putting them in the starting lineup repeatedly, recalling ‘westy’ after her hadn’t played since canned a year ago, only for it to blow up in our faces spectacularly Spending a week saying Paterson wasn’t a striker but a midfielder then playing him up front etc etc etc I like Pulis and think we will be totally fine at the end of the season and still in the Championship but it doesn’t mean we can’t look at (and challenge) some of his decisions so far Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I think to form a judgment on pulis in three months would be incredibly difficult personally I think he’s done extremely well to get two points i honestly think he’s been given an impossible task January will be his get out of jail card but realistically how much can he do and what level of backing will he have how far off pace will we be? Will we have significantly climbed the league we must have a current available squad where our league position says we are so it keep picking up points is a little miracle he’s working to judge him after 3 months would put him mid February 2 weeks after the transfer window shut is a little harsh he’s got 3 targets for me keep us competitive and In reach of 21st before January ( or out of bottom three better ) assemble effective offensive play to climb the table from January then he’s a full preseason and transfer window to see what he can put together Any manager should be given at least 4 transfer windows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Monk has to be culpable, while not being totally responsible. We were well placed this time last year, while he was still taking stock. Sitting third at Christmas, all it needed was 2 or 3 strategic signings, and to leave things as they were. Sadly, he never managed to do that. This season’s rebuild was a disaster, which has left the squad unbalanced and completely lacking in attacking areas. Pulis, it’s too early to tell yet, but it has the potential to be a Rhodes style managerial appointment, ie something that maybe would have been OK five years ago. Football has changed a lot in those five years and we’ve yet to see whether he can adopt a more enlightened approach. I suspect he won’t be able to, but the way he had us playing at Swansea, gives me a little bit of hope. Ultimately, it seems to me that, whoever is advising DC, is out of step with the direction football is traveling in. There lies the biggest problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Checking social media I see 3 groups of people. - People who still defend Monk - People backing Pulis to succeed - People who never wanted Pulis He’s here now. Should we all give the guy our support ? Maybe judge him in 3 months, instead of 3 games. I think I’ve supported (or at least ‘bought into’ supporting all managers - despite some reservations (that they probably will fail) until it became apparent they were doing terribly. We’ve been through some tough times as a fan base, and are up against it yet again - so can we maybe see how it goes with Pulis ? I'm in a group that wanted shut of Monk, and didn't want dinasaur Pulis either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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