owls79 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Can anyone explain what exactly he means by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Culture always starts from the very top. We all know it - we are an absolute shell of a club when it comes to people and senior managers and directors. Those in a job are stealing a living and Monk himself has no support, no help, no direction, no coaches, no structure above him whatsoever. God knows what will change in the summer though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Ask Sam Hutchinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Something that is upsetting the apple cart that is solidly ingrained and has history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Wasn't a problem when we're 3rd. Problem is Monk, he's utterly clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, deano said: Wasn't a problem when we're 3rd. Problem is Monk, he's utterly clueless. Short sighted post. The very fact we've gone from 3rd to this shows that something is amiss. Monk deserves a lot of blame but I genuinely feel most would be achieving similar results with this set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Monk does not want to spill the beans listening to his interview....maybe Westwood and Hutchinson have and thats why they have been pushed into the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Short sighted post. The very fact we've gone from 3rd to this shows that something is amiss. Monk deserves a lot of blame but I genuinely feel most would be achieving similar results with this set up. Unfortunately we are in a short sighted position I would expect most to appreciate that. The only change we can make at this stage of the season, as we begin to flirt with relegation is to change the management, which has been nothing short of woeful for months. Got a better idea, perhaps you think Monk is doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 This is what he means. And for me that starts at the top. When you give average players wealthy and lengthy contracts, the desire to fight and win goes. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 An owner who insists on the final say on everything, but is never there. His little helper who hangs around the training ground smoking and dictates transfer policy. Senior players who think they can do as they please and then spit dummy out when they can't. Lots of overpaid mediocre players who don't give a sh*t. An assistant manager who has seemingly got a job for life, who's main skills are waving his arms about and throwing balls up for heading practice. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A E Neuman NYowl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, deano said: Unfortunately we are in a short sighted position I would expect most to appreciate that. The only change we can make at this stage of the season, as we begin to flirt with relegation is to change the management, which has been nothing short of woeful for months. Got a better idea, perhaps you think Monk is doing a good job. Exactly spot on. We can't change the players, we need to get the best out of them for this season and Monks not doing that. Some of our recent performances are so bad that our opponents have won the game by 30 minutes and have then got the cigars out or the scorelines could have been a lot worse. People can say they hope the chairman walks away, he isn't going to wash his hands of his investment. Like you have said all that can be done for now is to change the man picking the team and choosing the tactics and hope that a new face can kick start us and get us enough points to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This is what he means. And for me that starts at the top. When you give average players wealthy and lengthy contracts, the desire to fight and win goes. Then it's time you facked off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, owls79 said: Can anyone explain what exactly he means by that? A dictionary is a useful tool but here you go. deep /diːp/ adjective 1. extending far down from the top or surface. "a deep gorge Rooted adjective having roots. firmly implanted (often used in combination): a deep-rooted belief. Culture the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl_83 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bing Cosby said: An owner who insists on the final say on everything, but is never there. His little helper who hangs around the training ground smoking and dictates transfer policy. Senior players who think they can do as they please and then spit dummy out when they can't. Lots of overpaid mediocre players who don't give a sh*t. An assistant manager who has seemingly got a job for life, who's main skills are waving his arms about and throwing balls up for heading practice. Who's his little helper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This is what he means. And for me that starts at the top. When you give average players wealthy and lengthy contracts, the desire to fight and win goes. He's telling us as much as he can. This is more than we've had from any previous manager. I think this is why we are seeing such squad rotation. To me it seems he may have called the playing staff out expecting as anyone would a reaction to prove him wrong. But rather than stepping up some are bearing out the truth of his statement above. What the hell is going on. Why has this been allowed to fester. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September65 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) OP's question is bang on. What is the culture problem? Sounds like Chansiri hasn't got a clue, is never there, doesn't listen and has made consistently bad decisions having surrounded himself with bad advisors. But when you have an apparently half decent squad and a manager who got us to third at Christmas, is it all about the Chairman? What changed, what gave way? The truth must out. Edited March 7, 2020 by September65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This is what he means. And for me that starts at the top. When you give average players wealthy and lengthy contracts, the desire to fight and win goes. Thats what has been evident for years. Its sickening as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitz44 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, owl_83 said: Who's his little helper? Think he means paxo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bing Cosby said: An owner who insists on the final say on everything, but is never there. His little helper who hangs around the training ground smoking and dictates transfer policy. Senior players who think they can do as they please and then spit dummy out when they can't. Lots of overpaid mediocre players who don't give a sh*t. An assistant manager who has seemingly got a job for life, who's main skills are waving his arms about and throwing balls up for heading practice. now we’re getting somewhere (and I’m not a monk fan) Add players who (the more diligent members of the squad of which there are too few) know when other players will be ‘injured’ Edited March 7, 2020 by Hirstys Salopettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 As much as I hate to say this; You only need to look across the city to see what desire, determination and a good culture can bring. Or, if you prefer, City, or Liverpool. It's all about attitude, and we have a bad one, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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