Pastor Kidneys Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We may as well just go balls deep against them ... They've no interest in arbitration and hate being challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mishowl said: Agree. If they find us ‘guilty’ they will throw the book at us for having a go back. Yep I think this is just desperation from the club to try and stop the inevitable. Not the first time we’ve kicked up a fuss when we weren’t happy with a decision. Reporting Newcastle to the Premier League for example. Wonder what happened to that? But to be honest, I don’t blame us for taking this approach. The punishment is going to be mega either way, may as well go down fighting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, TINKERBELL said: Didn't Aston villa go up under similar circumstances and once in premier league untouchable Good point I was going to add where does the EFL durisdiction end and the Premiership begin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post torres Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 It’s like 2 drunk women having a fight You know both are in the wrong, both are slightly clueless, it should never have come to this, it’s uncomfortable to witness but it’s a little bit funny and you cheer on your wife with all your might!!! come on Wednesday 1 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, torres said: It’s like 2 drunk women having a fight You know both are in the wrong, both are slightly clueless, it should never have come to this, it’s uncomfortable to witness but it’s a little bit funny and you cheer on your wife with all your might!!! come on Wednesday Oh dear 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Also talk of get promoted and then it will go away, is very wishful thinking. Firstly let’s appreciate how difficult that is. We are 11 points off automatic promotion. Yes we are 4th and have had a good run but we are by no means the finished article as a side, I think Monk is overachieving with what he’s got. Also the play offs are a lottery. Secondly the punishment is likely to happen this season, like Birmingham. The EFL won’t let us get away with this. No doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I think we’re in the right to fight this whatever the final outcome. The EFL just lack consistency in the way they govern their clubs and we obviously feel for some reason we’ve been singled out when other clubs have sold their stadiums and regardless of the whys and wherefores of the situation we find ourselves in, we have to stand up and be counted. This case will have a bearing on the future of P&S in the championship as other clubs are going to fall foul of these stupid rules in the future, maybe even the holier than thou lot in Teeside? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If the EFL were to impose a points deduction and then the club went after the EFL and won, things could get very messy indeed. If for example the points deduction stopped us from getting into the top 6, then the club would be within their rights to sue the EFL for £150m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Would absolutely love us to be in the top 6 come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaco Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Also talk of get promoted and then it will go away, is very wishful thinking. Firstly let’s appreciate how difficult that is. We are 11 points off automatic promotion. Yes we are 4th and have had a good run but we are by no means the finished article as a side, I think Monk is overachieving with what he’s got. Also the play offs are a lottery. Secondly the punishment is likely to happen this season, like Birmingham. The EFL won’t let us get away with this. No doubt in my mind. I honestly don't think he's overachieving, based on what's happened so far I reckon we should be aiming for promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Worst thing is I can remember when we signed Fletcher and Rhodes and we found out their wages....Most people raised their eyebrows in surprise and there was about 2 people said it would end in disaster. Smug gits ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Praying that we do have evidence to put us in the clear but if we haven’t the EFL are really going to make an example of us, especially with the club having a go back. Would love us to take them on and beat them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, torres said: It’s like 2 drunk women having a fight You know both are in the wrong, both are slightly clueless, it should never have come to this, it’s uncomfortable to witness but it’s a little bit funny and you cheer on your wife with all your might!!! come on Wednesday Well that's one way of looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Also talk of get promoted and then it will go away, is very wishful thinking. Firstly let’s appreciate how difficult that is. We are 11 points off automatic promotion. Yes we are 4th and have had a good run but we are by no means the finished article as a side, I think Monk is overachieving with what he’s got. Also the play offs are a lottery. Secondly the punishment is likely to happen this season, like Birmingham. The EFL won’t let us get away with this. No doubt in my mind. Sadly I think you're correct. I would then win a tenner off my brother if that happened mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The fallout from this will be huge if we are in the top 6 and they kill our season by docking points This is gonna end up very messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The club know what they’re doing. Promotion is in the sights this season, they’re gonna drag this shiiit on Could take years to go through all the Court proceedings and any appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Yep trying to decipher what the statement actually means. So the EFL have charged us with a disciplinary offence We have written to the EFL that we think in law we have a claim against the EFL for this legitimate expectation to rely on previous correspondence and therefore the charges are unlawful The EFL have not accepted that we have a claim against them Presumably the EFL continue the disciplinary process as they consider they are acting lawfully, that any previous reliance was not given, or misconstrued, or not valid as further evidence over rides that legitimate expectation The Club can only remedy this - if the EFL refuse to accept a claim - to presumably go to Court to get a judgement on whether there is a potential claim. Not to actually determine the claim If the EFL continue the action on FFP and it turns out they were wrong on the unlawful action point we could presumably sue on both counts. Just me hypothesising - be useful if a lawyer to give a take on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The worry is we're being held to account by a private club's interpretation of their own rules - whilst we've threatened them against breaking general business/commercial laws, I'm not sure how this will play with the EFL. Just what exactly is misconduct in relation to what we've done - late accounts? - all legitimate according to our auditors. My fear is they see their 'club' crumbling, primarily with the championship cash-cow club splitting off some time in the near future and are desperate to hold everything together by showing their strength and making us an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It seems the EFL are hoping we back down. No chance with big Chans at the tiller. Interesting wording with regards to affecting team performance. Looks like we're going for the jugular. Let's rip those dinosaurs a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Also talk of get promoted and then it will go away, is very wishful thinking. Firstly let’s appreciate how difficult that is. We are 11 points off automatic promotion. Yes we are 4th and have had a good run but we are by no means the finished article as a side, I think Monk is overachieving with what he’s got. Also the play offs are a lottery. Secondly the punishment is likely to happen this season, like Birmingham. The EFL won’t let us get away with this. No doubt in my mind. If we can prove, and have documents to back it up as suggested in our first statement, then it's going to court so a judge can decide which side is correct. Only way this can end. We may get the punishment but then tie them up in appeals for years like QPR did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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