alanharper Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I wonder if they'll still allocate some of the new spaces for matchday parking, it'd be a nice earner for them. 287 spaces does seem a lot for what looks like 3 shops (tbf it doesn't say how big these will be or what they are), 2 drive-thrus and a garage, (plus storage and distribution units which won't attract any customer traffic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If I was the owner, I would want to secure planning consent to make sure that if it was ever sold, I got maximum value for it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Good luck with that when Penistone Rd is closed. Edited November 14, 2019 by Sham67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Presumably on safety ground the Council will not be able to pass planning permissions as the area is over crowded, there is insufficient traffic management and the last thing Hillsborough needs is another fast food outlet it already has about 30+. Not forgetting the health and safety standards they have imposed on the Owls to pass planning permission for this site would kind of show that what they are doing to the Owls is a vendetta rather than for Health and Safety reason. I also don't know many shops that will be happy for every other Saturday in the month no customers be allowed to enter due to road restrictions in the area for match days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Buxtongent said: is it such a missed opportunity? I thought this often, but think clearly.The area is to be for proposed development. Were we as a club to have purchased this site, it would have provided Car Parking. Even if this were double the number in the proposal, say 500 cars,this would have provided an income , if it was full EVERY home match, and the cost of parking was £10 (double the current price) it would bring in £110, 000, per season.Convenient for supporters to park on match days , but unused for at least 330 days per year. The proposal is for a £25 Million redevelopment, in other words, the recoupment of 120 years+ of fees for the initial cost. What it does throw into light is the cost of providing car parking at entertainment venues. At first sight, and I agree that I was one, it appears to be an ideal proposition for Wednesday, but it would need to have other business attached to it, business that would need to be unoccupied AT ITS BUSIEST time Like many ideas, it is ideal from one point of view only, unfortunately! If we are staying at Hillsborough, then yes it is huge opportunity missed. You are looking at it based on the cost of a multi-purpose development yet factoring in income for car-parking only. This scenario has been discussed many times before in various threads on redeveloping the ground, the idea being that the whole area could be turned into a fan zone that would provide: Car parking Cinema, fans pub, restaurants, possible hotel to encourage fans to arrive earlier and leave later easing traffic in the area A walkway/bridge area over Penistone Road to new entrances for the Kop etc to improve pedestrian access/egress to the ground and get them off Penistone Road The only reasons I can come up with for the purchase not having happened are that either we are moving or DC does not have the long term vision necessary to make us prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Another non descript unimaginative building to blight the area.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, flo said: They'll just shut the drive thrus for the match because they'll get hundreds of people walking in. Can you legally walk through a drive through, & order & pay the same? Often wondered what they'd do if you just strolled up to the speaker & placed an order, then wandered round to the payment window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Utah Owl said: If we are staying at Hillsborough, then yes it is huge opportunity missed. You are looking at it based on the cost of a multi-purpose development yet factoring in income for car-parking only. This scenario has been discussed many times before in various threads on redeveloping the ground, the idea being that the whole area could be turned into a fan zone that would provide: Car parking Cinema, fans pub, restaurants, possible hotel to encourage fans to arrive earlier and leave later easing traffic in the area A walkway/bridge area over Penistone Road to new entrances for the Kop etc to improve pedestrian access/egress to the ground and get them off Penistone Road The only reasons I can come up with for the purchase not having happened are that either we are moving or DC does not have the long term vision necessary to make us prosper. Was that land purchased under the tenure of MM's reign ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Animis said: the stadium is 120yrs old and has never been subject to parking requirements under planning law there are likely to be an additional 8,000 or so cars descending on the streets around Hillsborough on match days and it has always impacted on the residents. Most shrug this off but if it happened around my house id be pretty pi$$ed off. If you’d lived there 121 years I’d sympathise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, hugeowl said: It was on the market during the Manderic era and he was trying to get out not get himself further in also no point in buying it if we are moving I have a few weeks off and WTF?? or are you just being a proper charlie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, steelowl said: I have a few weeks off and WTF?? or are you just being a proper charlie ? I knew I would get a bite off you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, hugeowl said: I knew I would get a bite off you i'll cross em you nod them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReginaldD Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The vehicle maintenance and repair unit will be useful following a match for those parking on Herries Rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Was that land purchased under the tenure of MM's reign ? Originally I believe so, but at various times it's been suggested that DC was also offered the chance to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hope there’s a couple of gyms and Costa coffees. Desperately short of them around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The are about 11 fast food places on Middlewood shops above the ground in less than 100 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Will the Sausage Cottage have an outlet in the development ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Will it have a Job Centre there? May get a bit of business soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 There's got to be enough space for your local SAG/SYP/EFL office somewhere on there surely? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) ... Edited November 18, 2019 by keepitsteel89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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