OxonOwl Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Yeah. Pain is telling you something is wrong. Masking it to play just makes me think there is some damage being done, going unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Monk needs to decide what system he wants to play before signing anybody. For example if we are playing 433 he probably would like a younger, quicker striker who can play as a lone striker, if 442 then it might be someone to play off Fletcher. They are different animals. Somebody above mentioned Che Adams. He was brilliant playing off a big striker last season. Southampton sign him and expect him to play as a lone striker. Guess what, it hasn’t worked. Nonsense recruitment. In theory if we play 442 we shouldn’t really need a striker as we have 4 other than Fletcher , probably costing us about 100k per week, who should be capable of doing a job in a 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldishowl said: In theory if we play 442 we shouldn’t really need a striker as we have 4 other than Fletcher , probably costing us about 100k per week, who should be capable of doing a job in a 442. Several years of having these other strikers have proven they aren't actually good enough for a top 6 assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Monk needs to decide what system he wants to play before signing anybody. For example if we are playing 433 he probably would like a younger, quicker striker who can play as a lone striker, if 442 then it might be someone to play off Fletcher. They are different animals. Somebody above mentioned Che Adams. He was brilliant playing off a big striker last season. Southampton sign him and expect him to play as a lone striker. Guess what, it hasn’t worked. Nonsense recruitment. In theory if we play 442 we shouldn’t really need a striker as we have 4 other than Fletcher , probably costing us about 100k per week, who should be capable of doing a job in a 442. "Capable of doing a job" says it all. Sorry to disagree with you but Nuihu, Winnall and Rhodes are not up to the required standard to play in a 442. They're many arguments to say that FF cannot play as a second striker and we get more from him when played wide. Whether monk wants to play 442 or 433 the priority signing in Jan is another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Several years of having these other strikers have proven they aren't actually good enough for a top 6 assault. I just don’t think we can financially afford to have 100k per week as bench warmers and then add some more wages on top of that to sign somebody else. If we play 442 , which I wouldn’t, then Monk needs to do his job and get one of them firing alongside Fletcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) I'd love us to get someone like James Collins (Luton) and Marcus Maddison (Peterborough) for example + we need one or two loanees, preferably a pacier energetic full back and/or a younger version of Hutch from the top flight too. Edited October 12, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Left-back can wait until summer, for me. Palmer is solid. Odubajo starting to bed in. Fox able cover until his contract expires. We've conceded 9 in 11. Our worries are not defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Left-back can wait until summer, for me. Palmer is solid. Odubajo starting to bed in. Fox able cover until his contract expires. We've conceded 9 in 11. Our worries are not defensive. Yes, and if we’ve been monitoring Penney’s performances in Germany, he will be getting a new contract. If we are continuing with the current set up, then probably a new centre forward is the best way we can improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 We need a goal-scoring striker to play off Fletcher in his centre-forward role and a left back to allow Palmer to move back to right back. I’d also like to see an old-fashioned winger that will hug the touchline beat the man, get to the byline and whip in the accurate cross - does that type of player exist anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Heard a whisper we're after Ivan Toney from Peterborough in Jan Edited October 12, 2019 by bigrbuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 07/10/2019 at 16:09, Owl999 said: Where is this striker meant to come from that is going to get you the goals in this division ? Genuine question given our financial restraints . Conor Wickham on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 07/10/2019 at 20:10, sMacLean said: Eze from QPR as an attacking midfielder would be fun and probably a good long-term investment. Would also have liked Nahki Wells to have come here in the summer, one of the best finishers at this level. Jutkiewicz at Brum would be a decent target man to switch in and out for Fletcher. Eze would be a class signing but can’t see it he will go prem. Not keen on the other two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, bigrbuk said: Heard a whisper we're after Ivan Toney from Peterborough in Jan Can't see that. He'd cost a bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Dutch McLovin said: Conor Wickham on loan It’s 2019 not 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, wilyfox said: Can't see that. He'd cost a bomb. Maybe Newcastle could buy him back, and then loan him to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, shandypants said: We need a goal-scoring striker to play off Fletcher in his centre-forward role and a left back to allow Palmer to move back to right back. I’d also like to see an old-fashioned winger that will hug the touchline beat the man, get to the byline and whip in the accurate cross - does that type of player exist anymore? His name is Kadeem Harris and fortunately we already own him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Agree with others that bringing in a quicker striker would be sensible, and loan seems like the only option unless its a cheaper punt from the lower leagues/abroad. Wickham is too injury prone these days I'm afraid and Gayle is unrealistic. There's probably a few decent strikers out there though in other prem league reserve teams. Most of whom I've never heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, bigrbuk said: Heard a whisper we're after Ivan Toney from Peterborough in Jan He used to live a few doors down from me I remember him being absolutely gutted his move to Wolves broke down when he was a teenager still. Very down to earth lad who is doing very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'm tempted to see what FF can offer us first. People keep saying we need someone to play if Fletcher, I know in the past it's been hit and miss with Fletch and FF, bit now we seen to have a set way of playing it might just work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 As Fletch is integral to how we're playing we'd be absolutely crazy not to line up another forward in the same mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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